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=== Brunch feedback === | === Brunch feedback === | ||
The brunch was very nice, we got to meet some new people interested in the Pirate Party. We were about 12 people for the lunch and for the drink (not always though). We were expecting more people, especially from Brussels. The size of the room gave the feeling that we were very few. | The brunch was very nice, we got to meet some new people interested in the Pirate Party. We were about 12 people for the lunch and for the drink (not always the same, though). We were expecting more people, especially from Brussels. The size of the room gave the feeling that we were very few. | ||
A solution would be to organise this kind of informal event more frequently (maybe two or three times a year). Maybe book a smaller room, also. Finally, we should make these events more like PR (public relations) events, so that people who didn't come would think they missed something. | A solution would be to organise this kind of informal event more frequently (maybe two or three times a year). Maybe book a smaller room, also. Finally, we should make these events more like PR (public relations) events, so that people who didn't come would think they missed something. | ||
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Regarding the organisation, pirates in charge felt a bit on their own. Also, arrows indicating the room were not clear at all, and some people couldn't find it without help... We should make it clear that we want good signage from the venue, otherwise we would bring our own. | Regarding the organisation, pirates in charge felt a bit on their own. Also, arrows indicating the room were not clear at all, and some people couldn't find it without help... We should make it clear that we want good signage from the venue, otherwise we would bring our own. | ||
Some are thinking of doing a BBQ in June. We shall discuss this during [[Pirate Lab/Meeting/24 02 | Some are thinking of doing a BBQ in June. We shall discuss this during [[Pirate Lab/Meeting/24 02 2018|next lab]]. | ||
=== GA === | === GA === | ||
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* Elections : | * Elections : | ||
** Who's running for the elections (citizen lists vs pirate lists) ? | ** Who's running for the elections (citizen lists vs pirate lists) ? | ||
** Dividing the money among | ** Dividing the money among crews | ||
** Citizen lists : what's the position of the Pirate Party ? | ** Citizen lists : what's the position of the Pirate Party ? | ||
*** But... do we really have legitimacy to talk about citizen lists ? | *** But... do we really have legitimacy to talk about citizen lists ? | ||
* Statutes : | * Statutes : Christophe Cop will clean unused stuff, by trying to remove the minimum | ||
** Maybe contact Fred as he worked on the statutes last time we changed them | ** Maybe contact Fred as he worked on the statutes last time we changed them | ||
* Roles : treasurer, Mermaid vzw, ... | * Roles : treasurer, Mermaid vzw, ... | ||
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==== Organisation ==== | ==== Organisation ==== | ||
Where and how do we prepare this ? -> Open and transparent tools are not | Where and how do we prepare this ? -> Open and transparent tools are not optional here. | ||
* Loomio : for the organisation, timeline of the process | * Loomio : for the organisation, timeline of the process | ||
* Wiki : for the documentation, the event, ... | * Wiki : for the documentation, the event, ... | ||
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# Follow up of the decisions | # Follow up of the decisions | ||
Remarks: | '''Remarks:''' | ||
* Deadlines for these steps must be very clear. | * Deadlines for these steps must be very clear. | ||
* Discussions do not happen during the voting session of the GA, but before AND after. | * Discussions do not happen during the voting session of the GA, but before AND after. | ||
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==== Secrecy vs Transparency ==== | ==== Secrecy vs Transparency ==== | ||
Some complain | Some complain that there is too much secrecy in some crews, which doesn't allow the other pirates to know what happens. This might happen also during the discussions around the GA. | ||
Maybe add a condition to the right to vote during a GA: attending at least one preparation meeting | Maybe add a condition to the right to vote during a GA: attending at least one preparation meeting? | ||
* You can only subscribe | * You can only subscribe during preparation meetings? | ||
=== Newsletter === | === Newsletter === | ||
Proposal to send the newsletter each month : https://www.loomio.org/d/PF9IUdlM/newsletter/22 | |||
In short: we keep the same format as the two previous newsletters, that is: | |||
# Introduction (big event, ongoing topics on loomio, ongoing projects) | |||
# Last articles on the website (if any) | |||
# Next pirate events | |||
'''Process:''' | |||
# At the beginning of the month, we start a pad with the text of the newsletter's intro. | |||
# Then, we get feedback on loomio. | |||
# Finally, we send the newsletter on the '''15th'''. | |||
'''Remarks:''' | |||
* Translations need to be done before the 15th | |||
* Crews' events must be published on the wiki before the 15th, otherwise they won't be in the newsletter | |||
=== Website === | === Website === | ||
Proposal is on loomio : https://www.loomio.org/d/Cx8tp4Qj/external-communication-of-ppbe/34 | |||
==== Slogan ==== | |||
* Did we lose control ? | |||
* Did we lose our cape ? | |||
* Has our rudder been tampered with? => disagreeing on this, will be discussed on Loomio | |||
Josse proposes to replace "from delegated party politics to horizontal" by "from vertical corruption-prone to horizontal" | |||
==== Values ==== | |||
The values can refer to our wiki, but then we need to improve its content | |||
* Example: add a link to [[Transparency]] | |||
Careful about [[Basic Income]]: we have a consensus about the fact UBI is interesting and should be explored, we don't have a consensus on more than that (when & where to implement, how much, etc). Also we need to say it's not a miracle solution. | |||
Which values exactly? Where do we stop? Focus on transparency/democracy... and what enables empowerment. | |||
* Rethinking the banks | |||
** Bitcoin ? no consensus | |||
** [http://duniter.org/ Duniter] ? | |||
==== Themes ==== | |||
If we need themes : https://www.elegantthemes.com/members-area/downloads/ | |||
Just ask the [[ITSquad]] for the login / password | |||
=== GDPR === | |||
'''This topic was not discussed at the lab'''. However, here are some ressources (in French): | |||
* Le RGPD en 12 mots-clés : https://open-freax.fr/rgpd-12-mots-cles/ | |||
* CIL / DPO : http://pixellibre.net/2017/11/informatique-libertes-rgpd-cil-dpo-pareil-meme/ | |||
* DPO : http://pixellibre.net/2017/11/cest-quoi-dpo/ | |||
* #RGPD : 10 recommandations de sécurité informatique : https://open-freax.fr/rgpd-10-recommandations-securite-informatique/ | |||
==== About Pirate Party ==== | |||
We may have to « start » with the [[Open Organization Maturity Model]] ? | |||
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Pirate Lab January 2018
About this meeting
Pirate Labs can be seen as incubators for pirate projects. This is the perfect place for people to propose their ideas and to launch new projects.
If you have any ideas of projects, or want to help other projects, please do come!
We will use the meeting guidelines proposed by the internal democracy group. Please have a look at them before coming to the lab :)
To-do list
Confirm venueCreate facebook event (then destroy facebook)Facebook event
Preparation
Lab starts at 2 pm. For those who want to lunch together before the lab, they can coordinate on the following pad:
https://pad.pirateparty.be/p/Piratelab2018-January
Suggestions for the agenda happen on this pad. We strongly advise you to read the pad before coming to this lab!
Reporting
7 people were present at this lab.
We started with a short roundtable where people said what they wanted to discuss today. However, we decided to not split.
Brunch feedback
The brunch was very nice, we got to meet some new people interested in the Pirate Party. We were about 12 people for the lunch and for the drink (not always the same, though). We were expecting more people, especially from Brussels. The size of the room gave the feeling that we were very few.
A solution would be to organise this kind of informal event more frequently (maybe two or three times a year). Maybe book a smaller room, also. Finally, we should make these events more like PR (public relations) events, so that people who didn't come would think they missed something.
Regarding the organisation, pirates in charge felt a bit on their own. Also, arrows indicating the room were not clear at all, and some people couldn't find it without help... We should make it clear that we want good signage from the venue, otherwise we would bring our own.
Some are thinking of doing a BBQ in June. We shall discuss this during next lab.
GA
Potential Topics
This would define the purpose of the GA:
- Website : we would like to change the main page of the website, a workgroup is working on it
- Elections :
- Who's running for the elections (citizen lists vs pirate lists) ?
- Dividing the money among crews
- Citizen lists : what's the position of the Pirate Party ?
- But... do we really have legitimacy to talk about citizen lists ?
- Statutes : Christophe Cop will clean unused stuff, by trying to remove the minimum
- Maybe contact Fred as he worked on the statutes last time we changed them
- Roles : treasurer, Mermaid vzw, ...
- Report : finance, Mermaid vzw, crews ?, ...
For the date, we choose the 22nd April (one week before a lab for the follow-up).
Question: Are we ready for a GA ? We have no statutes, etc. In the other hand, we could say that we would never be ready for a GA...
Organisation
Where and how do we prepare this ? -> Open and transparent tools are not optional here.
- Loomio : for the organisation, timeline of the process
- Wiki : for the documentation, the event, ...
- Pads : for translation, reporting during the GA, etc.
Here is a proposal for the process:
- Publication of the proposals
- Debate about the proposals
- Decisions at the GA
- Follow up of the decisions
Remarks:
- Deadlines for these steps must be very clear.
- Discussions do not happen during the voting session of the GA, but before AND after.
- Follow up is an integral part of the process, because:
- If a proposal is rejected, we need to resolve conflict, rework the proposal, by respect for those who made the proposal for instance
- In other words, the follow up is the place for those who rejected the proposal to become constructive and to try to improve things
- If a proposal is accepted, we must discuss the details, apply the decision, etc.
- If a proposal is rejected, we need to resolve conflict, rework the proposal, by respect for those who made the proposal for instance
Secrecy vs Transparency
Some complain that there is too much secrecy in some crews, which doesn't allow the other pirates to know what happens. This might happen also during the discussions around the GA.
Maybe add a condition to the right to vote during a GA: attending at least one preparation meeting?
- You can only subscribe during preparation meetings?
Newsletter
Proposal to send the newsletter each month : https://www.loomio.org/d/PF9IUdlM/newsletter/22
In short: we keep the same format as the two previous newsletters, that is:
- Introduction (big event, ongoing topics on loomio, ongoing projects)
- Last articles on the website (if any)
- Next pirate events
Process:
- At the beginning of the month, we start a pad with the text of the newsletter's intro.
- Then, we get feedback on loomio.
- Finally, we send the newsletter on the 15th.
Remarks:
- Translations need to be done before the 15th
- Crews' events must be published on the wiki before the 15th, otherwise they won't be in the newsletter
Website
Proposal is on loomio : https://www.loomio.org/d/Cx8tp4Qj/external-communication-of-ppbe/34
Slogan
- Did we lose control ?
- Did we lose our cape ?
- Has our rudder been tampered with? => disagreeing on this, will be discussed on Loomio
Josse proposes to replace "from delegated party politics to horizontal" by "from vertical corruption-prone to horizontal"
Values
The values can refer to our wiki, but then we need to improve its content
- Example: add a link to Transparency
Careful about Basic Income: we have a consensus about the fact UBI is interesting and should be explored, we don't have a consensus on more than that (when & where to implement, how much, etc). Also we need to say it's not a miracle solution.
Which values exactly? Where do we stop? Focus on transparency/democracy... and what enables empowerment.
- Rethinking the banks
- Bitcoin ? no consensus
- Duniter ?
Themes
If we need themes : https://www.elegantthemes.com/members-area/downloads/
Just ask the ITSquad for the login / password
GDPR
This topic was not discussed at the lab. However, here are some ressources (in French):
- Le RGPD en 12 mots-clés : https://open-freax.fr/rgpd-12-mots-cles/
- CIL / DPO : http://pixellibre.net/2017/11/informatique-libertes-rgpd-cil-dpo-pareil-meme/
- DPO : http://pixellibre.net/2017/11/cest-quoi-dpo/
- #RGPD : 10 recommandations de sécurité informatique : https://open-freax.fr/rgpd-10-recommandations-securite-informatique/
About Pirate Party
We may have to « start » with the Open Organization Maturity Model ?