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+ | |meetingname = Pirate Lab September 2015 | ||
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+ | |date = 2015/09/26 | ||
+ | |time = 1pm | ||
+ | |venue = Café Europa | ||
+ | |address = Rue des soeurs noires 4 | ||
+ | |postalcode = 7000 | ||
+ | |city = Mons | ||
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== Pirate Lab in Mons - September 26th, 2015 == | == Pirate Lab in Mons - September 26th, 2015 == | ||
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=== Report === | === Report === | ||
− | 1) GENERAL ASSEMBLY: | + | '''1) GENERAL ASSEMBLY''': |
− | + | end of January/mid February in Gent | |
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− | + | crew Gent is looking for a place to do it (Tuin of Eden) | |
− | + | topics and content: via Loomio 'Pirate Open Assembly' | |
− | + | * membership administration and welcoming | |
− | + | * IT and infrastructure: who is maintaining the site? what about mailing lists? | |
+ | * general internal workings: structures and how they do relate | ||
− | + | '''2) MANIFESTO''' | |
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− | + | difference between program and manifesto: | |
− | + | * manifesto offers a vision, a dream | |
− | + | * program offers details | |
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− | + | '''three strategies:''' | |
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− | + | '''* 1- group/common manifesto = one text for all of us:''' | |
− | 1- | + | ** better for the political party |
− | + | ** link with tech pirates? | |
− | + | ** good for the outer world, to convince people who don't know the pirates yet | |
+ | ** singular, clear, convincing | ||
+ | ** difficult to make one common text, process will be messy | ||
+ | ** we have to find a way to provide a text like that | ||
+ | ** Toon and Damiens are working on a singular text: working on technical solution for 'how can we write that manifesto and make it democratically sustained (with ammendments and way to support them) > will take time!! | ||
+ | ** Vincent: how to merge different texts > http://emerge.shoutwiki.com | ||
− | + | '''* 2- compilation of individual manifesto's:''' | |
+ | ** better for the movement | ||
+ | ** link with social/relational pirates? | ||
+ | ** a bit messy, not consistent for the outer world | ||
+ | ** good for the internal group: everyone gives input | ||
+ | ** also possible for groups and crews to write their own manifesto | ||
+ | ** put all the manifesto's in a word cloud > see which topics are huge, and which ones are small | ||
− | + | '''* 3- combination of both: the are compatible''' | |
− | + | ** make sure that both groups are represented (relational and tech) | |
+ | ** there is a spectrum with black and white, but also grey: there is much more than social pirates and tech pirates (simplification), we have to focus on the common | ||
+ | ** both approaches can be combined: we can start with the individual manifesto's, and keep working on the tool for the central one | ||
+ | ** make a questionnary as a guidline for writing: why are you a pirate? | ||
− | - | + | '''TO DO LIST !!!!!''' |
− | - | + | * 1- motivate people to write an individual manifesto (wait a little bit for the questionnary) |
− | - | + | * 2- make a questionnary: gather input for the common manifesto (Toon, Danny, Pascal, Jonas, Josse, Tim) > Toon is taking initiative on the Manifesto Working Group on Facebook |
− | + | * 3- tool to make a common manifesto, we have the input already from the questionnary (Toon and Damiens) | |
− | + | '''3) SYMPOSIUM''' | |
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− | + | Questions: | |
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− | + | '''1- Is it a pirate event or not?''' | |
+ | * Two kinds of approach for events like this: | ||
+ | ** 'these are subject we as pirates are interested in, and that's why we invited authorities' | ||
+ | ** these speakers are pirates and they speak in our name | ||
+ | ***not all three speakers are 'official pirates', so we chose first approach | ||
+ | * who is organizing and paying? | ||
+ | ** financial account of Pirate Party Belgium | ||
+ | ** organization by P42 (vzw/asbl linked to Brussels pirate crew) | ||
+ | * who is our public? | ||
+ | ** pirates and non-pirates | ||
− | - | + | '''2- How do we fund the event?''' |
− | + | * ask people to pay an entrance fee (idea not supported) | |
− | + | * put a donation box !!! | |
− | + | * sell things? pins or buttons? | |
− | + | * we want to keep it simple | |
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− | + | * if speakers want to sell books: | |
+ | ** they announce it and organize it themselves | ||
− | - | + | '''3- How do we promote the event?''' |
− | + | * boost the event by paying on Facebook: | |
− | + | ** the host of the event (Pirate Party Belgium) can boost it | |
− | + | ** ask supporters to boost it (Promote Event) | |
− | + | ** visibility is very low when you don't pay: Facebook is playing trics | |
− | + | * sharing event on Facebook pages related to basic income (everyone can do this individually) | |
+ | * spread it through event websites (mention: 'sponsored by Pirate Party Belgium' instead of 'organized by PP Be) | ||
+ | ** Politics.be, basisinkomen.be, Oikos, ... | ||
+ | * Twitter? what about the pirate Twitter accounts? | ||
+ | * flyers? | ||
+ | ** graphic design? (brother of Danny!) | ||
+ | ** flyer in pdf: digital flyers to spread on the internet, people can print it | ||
+ | ** paper prints for universities, student bars, ... | ||
− | + | '''4- Do we stream or film the event?''' | |
+ | * no live streaming, can easily go wrong | ||
+ | * record and make a promotion film for social media?? | ||
+ | ** we need: | ||
+ | *** cameraman and technical crew | ||
+ | *** someone for montage | ||
+ | *** material: good camera + statief | ||
− | - information about pirates: flyers | + | '''5- How do we welcome new people and keep in touch?''' |
− | + | * information about pirates: flyers | |
− | + | * mailing lists: gather mail adresses on paper !!! | |
− | + | ** note on mailing lists: | |
− | + | *** can be used to send invitation for the event!! | |
− | + | *** mailing lists should be cleaned up | |
− | + | *** huge work: there is no collection of all addresses in one place, there are many different mailinglists and in there you have all the different addresses | |
− | + | *** we have to get it straight before we start using it again: bad impression | |
+ | *** avoid massive spam | ||
− | TO DO LIST !!!!! | + | '''TO DO LIST !!!!!''' |
− | + | * start marketing and promotion: share the event through Twitter and Facebook (everyone) | |
− | + | * send event to specialised event websites | |
− | + | * cleaning up mailing lists? (huge work, will be topic of GA) | |
− | + | * camera and staief (Pascal and Toon) | |
− | + | * digital registration form (EventBright?) 'come early, full is full' | |
− | + | * digital flyer (brother Danny) | |
=== Pad === | === Pad === | ||
− | [ | + | [https://pad.pirateparty.be/p/piratelab_labs direct link to the pad] |
− | <eplite id="piratelab_labs" | + | <eplite src="https://pad.pirateparty.be/p/" id="piratelab_labs" /> |
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Pirate Lab in Mons - September 26th, 2015
On Saturday September 26th, 2015 at Café Europa, Mons
Open at 12am, Lab starts at 1pm.
Topics
- 1) General Assembly
- 2) Manifesto
- 3) Symposium
Report
1) GENERAL ASSEMBLY:
end of January/mid February in Gent
crew Gent is looking for a place to do it (Tuin of Eden)
topics and content: via Loomio 'Pirate Open Assembly'
- membership administration and welcoming
- IT and infrastructure: who is maintaining the site? what about mailing lists?
- general internal workings: structures and how they do relate
2) MANIFESTO
difference between program and manifesto:
- manifesto offers a vision, a dream
- program offers details
three strategies:
* 1- group/common manifesto = one text for all of us:
- better for the political party
- link with tech pirates?
- good for the outer world, to convince people who don't know the pirates yet
- singular, clear, convincing
- difficult to make one common text, process will be messy
- we have to find a way to provide a text like that
- Toon and Damiens are working on a singular text: working on technical solution for 'how can we write that manifesto and make it democratically sustained (with ammendments and way to support them) > will take time!!
- Vincent: how to merge different texts > http://emerge.shoutwiki.com
* 2- compilation of individual manifesto's:
- better for the movement
- link with social/relational pirates?
- a bit messy, not consistent for the outer world
- good for the internal group: everyone gives input
- also possible for groups and crews to write their own manifesto
- put all the manifesto's in a word cloud > see which topics are huge, and which ones are small
* 3- combination of both: the are compatible
- make sure that both groups are represented (relational and tech)
- there is a spectrum with black and white, but also grey: there is much more than social pirates and tech pirates (simplification), we have to focus on the common
- both approaches can be combined: we can start with the individual manifesto's, and keep working on the tool for the central one
- make a questionnary as a guidline for writing: why are you a pirate?
TO DO LIST !!!!!
- 1- motivate people to write an individual manifesto (wait a little bit for the questionnary)
- 2- make a questionnary: gather input for the common manifesto (Toon, Danny, Pascal, Jonas, Josse, Tim) > Toon is taking initiative on the Manifesto Working Group on Facebook
- 3- tool to make a common manifesto, we have the input already from the questionnary (Toon and Damiens)
3) SYMPOSIUM
Questions:
1- Is it a pirate event or not?
- Two kinds of approach for events like this:
- 'these are subject we as pirates are interested in, and that's why we invited authorities'
- these speakers are pirates and they speak in our name
- not all three speakers are 'official pirates', so we chose first approach
- who is organizing and paying?
- financial account of Pirate Party Belgium
- organization by P42 (vzw/asbl linked to Brussels pirate crew)
- who is our public?
- pirates and non-pirates
2- How do we fund the event?
- ask people to pay an entrance fee (idea not supported)
- put a donation box !!!
- sell things? pins or buttons?
- we want to keep it simple
- if speakers want to sell books:
- they announce it and organize it themselves
3- How do we promote the event?
- boost the event by paying on Facebook:
- the host of the event (Pirate Party Belgium) can boost it
- ask supporters to boost it (Promote Event)
- visibility is very low when you don't pay: Facebook is playing trics
- sharing event on Facebook pages related to basic income (everyone can do this individually)
- spread it through event websites (mention: 'sponsored by Pirate Party Belgium' instead of 'organized by PP Be)
- Politics.be, basisinkomen.be, Oikos, ...
- Twitter? what about the pirate Twitter accounts?
- flyers?
- graphic design? (brother of Danny!)
- flyer in pdf: digital flyers to spread on the internet, people can print it
- paper prints for universities, student bars, ...
4- Do we stream or film the event?
- no live streaming, can easily go wrong
- record and make a promotion film for social media??
- we need:
- cameraman and technical crew
- someone for montage
- material: good camera + statief
- we need:
5- How do we welcome new people and keep in touch?
- information about pirates: flyers
- mailing lists: gather mail adresses on paper !!!
- note on mailing lists:
- can be used to send invitation for the event!!
- mailing lists should be cleaned up
- huge work: there is no collection of all addresses in one place, there are many different mailinglists and in there you have all the different addresses
- we have to get it straight before we start using it again: bad impression
- avoid massive spam
- note on mailing lists:
TO DO LIST !!!!!
- start marketing and promotion: share the event through Twitter and Facebook (everyone)
- send event to specialised event websites
- cleaning up mailing lists? (huge work, will be topic of GA)
- camera and staief (Pascal and Toon)
- digital registration form (EventBright?) 'come early, full is full'
- digital flyer (brother Danny)
Pad