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|meetingname = Pirate Lab September 2015 | |||
|workgroup = Pirate Lab | |||
|date = 2015/09/26 | |||
|time = 1pm | |||
|venue = Café Europa | |||
|address = Rue des soeurs noires 4 | |||
|postalcode = 7000 | |||
|city = Mons | |||
|attendees= | |||
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|minutes = #Report | |||
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== Pirate Lab in Mons - September 26th, 2015 == | == Pirate Lab in Mons - September 26th, 2015 == | ||
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'''1) GENERAL ASSEMBLY''': | '''1) GENERAL ASSEMBLY''': | ||
end of January/mid February in Gent | |||
crew Gent is looking for a place to do it (Tuin of Eden) | |||
topics and content: via Loomio 'Pirate Open Assembly' | |||
* membership administration and welcoming | |||
* IT and infrastructure: who is maintaining the site? what about mailing lists? | |||
* general internal workings: structures and how they do relate | |||
'''2) MANIFESTO''' | '''2) MANIFESTO''' | ||
difference between program and manifesto: | |||
* manifesto offers a vision, a dream | |||
* program offers details | |||
'''three strategies:''' | |||
* | '''* 1- group/common manifesto = one text for all of us:''' | ||
** better for the political party | |||
** link with tech pirates? | |||
** good for the outer world, to convince people who don't know the pirates yet | |||
** singular, clear, convincing | |||
** difficult to make one common text, process will be messy | |||
** we have to find a way to provide a text like that | |||
** Toon and Damiens are working on a singular text: working on technical solution for 'how can we write that manifesto and make it democratically sustained (with ammendments and way to support them) > will take time!! | |||
** Vincent: how to merge different texts > http://emerge.shoutwiki.com | |||
'''* 2- compilation of individual manifesto's:''' | |||
** better for the movement | |||
** link with social/relational pirates? | |||
** a bit messy, not consistent for the outer world | |||
** good for the internal group: everyone gives input | |||
** also possible for groups and crews to write their own manifesto | |||
** put all the manifesto's in a word cloud > see which topics are huge, and which ones are small | |||
TO DO LIST !!!!! | '''* 3- combination of both: the are compatible''' | ||
1 | ** make sure that both groups are represented (relational and tech) | ||
2 | ** there is a spectrum with black and white, but also grey: there is much more than social pirates and tech pirates (simplification), we have to focus on the common | ||
3 | ** both approaches can be combined: we can start with the individual manifesto's, and keep working on the tool for the central one | ||
** make a questionnary as a guidline for writing: why are you a pirate? | |||
'''TO DO LIST !!!!!''' | |||
* 1- motivate people to write an individual manifesto (wait a little bit for the questionnary) | |||
* 2- make a questionnary: gather input for the common manifesto (Toon, Danny, Pascal, Jonas, Josse, Tim) > Toon is taking initiative on the Manifesto Working Group on Facebook | |||
* 3- tool to make a common manifesto, we have the input already from the questionnary (Toon and Damiens) | |||
'''3) SYMPOSIUM''' | '''3) SYMPOSIUM''' | ||
Questions: | Questions: | ||
'''1- Is it a pirate event or not?''' | |||
* Two kinds of approach for events like this: | |||
** 'these are subject we as pirates are interested in, and that's why we invited authorities' | |||
** these speakers are pirates and they speak in our name | |||
***not all three speakers are 'official pirates', so we chose first approach | |||
* who is organizing and paying? | |||
** financial account of Pirate Party Belgium | |||
** organization by P42 (vzw/asbl linked to Brussels pirate crew) | |||
* who is our public? | |||
** pirates and non-pirates | |||
- | '''2- How do we fund the event?''' | ||
* ask people to pay an entrance fee (idea not supported) | |||
* put a donation box !!! | |||
* sell things? pins or buttons? | |||
* we want to keep it simple | |||
* if speakers want to sell books: | |||
** they announce it and organize it themselves | |||
- | '''3- How do we promote the event?''' | ||
* boost the event by paying on Facebook: | |||
** the host of the event (Pirate Party Belgium) can boost it | |||
** ask supporters to boost it (Promote Event) | |||
** visibility is very low when you don't pay: Facebook is playing trics | |||
* sharing event on Facebook pages related to basic income (everyone can do this individually) | |||
* spread it through event websites (mention: 'sponsored by Pirate Party Belgium' instead of 'organized by PP Be) | |||
** Politics.be, basisinkomen.be, Oikos, ... | |||
* Twitter? what about the pirate Twitter accounts? | |||
* flyers? | |||
** graphic design? (brother of Danny!) | |||
** flyer in pdf: digital flyers to spread on the internet, people can print it | |||
** paper prints for universities, student bars, ... | |||
'''4- Do we stream or film the event?''' | |||
* no live streaming, can easily go wrong | |||
* record and make a promotion film for social media?? | |||
** we need: | |||
*** cameraman and technical crew | |||
*** someone for montage | |||
*** material: good camera + statief | |||
- information about pirates: flyers | '''5- How do we welcome new people and keep in touch?''' | ||
* information about pirates: flyers | |||
* mailing lists: gather mail adresses on paper !!! | |||
** note on mailing lists: | |||
*** can be used to send invitation for the event!! | |||
*** mailing lists should be cleaned up | |||
*** huge work: there is no collection of all addresses in one place, there are many different mailinglists and in there you have all the different addresses | |||
*** we have to get it straight before we start using it again: bad impression | |||
*** avoid massive spam | |||
TO DO LIST !!!!! | '''TO DO LIST !!!!!''' | ||
* start marketing and promotion: share the event through Twitter and Facebook (everyone) | |||
* send event to specialised event websites | |||
* cleaning up mailing lists? (huge work, will be topic of GA) | |||
* camera and staief (Pascal and Toon) | |||
* digital registration form (EventBright?) 'come early, full is full' | |||
* digital flyer (brother Danny) | |||
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Pirate Lab in Mons - September 26th, 2015
On Saturday September 26th, 2015 at Café Europa, Mons
Open at 12am, Lab starts at 1pm.
Topics
- 1) General Assembly
- 2) Manifesto
- 3) Symposium
Report
1) GENERAL ASSEMBLY:
end of January/mid February in Gent
crew Gent is looking for a place to do it (Tuin of Eden)
topics and content: via Loomio 'Pirate Open Assembly'
- membership administration and welcoming
- IT and infrastructure: who is maintaining the site? what about mailing lists?
- general internal workings: structures and how they do relate
2) MANIFESTO
difference between program and manifesto:
- manifesto offers a vision, a dream
- program offers details
three strategies:
* 1- group/common manifesto = one text for all of us:
- better for the political party
- link with tech pirates?
- good for the outer world, to convince people who don't know the pirates yet
- singular, clear, convincing
- difficult to make one common text, process will be messy
- we have to find a way to provide a text like that
- Toon and Damiens are working on a singular text: working on technical solution for 'how can we write that manifesto and make it democratically sustained (with ammendments and way to support them) > will take time!!
- Vincent: how to merge different texts > http://emerge.shoutwiki.com
* 2- compilation of individual manifesto's:
- better for the movement
- link with social/relational pirates?
- a bit messy, not consistent for the outer world
- good for the internal group: everyone gives input
- also possible for groups and crews to write their own manifesto
- put all the manifesto's in a word cloud > see which topics are huge, and which ones are small
* 3- combination of both: the are compatible
- make sure that both groups are represented (relational and tech)
- there is a spectrum with black and white, but also grey: there is much more than social pirates and tech pirates (simplification), we have to focus on the common
- both approaches can be combined: we can start with the individual manifesto's, and keep working on the tool for the central one
- make a questionnary as a guidline for writing: why are you a pirate?
TO DO LIST !!!!!
- 1- motivate people to write an individual manifesto (wait a little bit for the questionnary)
- 2- make a questionnary: gather input for the common manifesto (Toon, Danny, Pascal, Jonas, Josse, Tim) > Toon is taking initiative on the Manifesto Working Group on Facebook
- 3- tool to make a common manifesto, we have the input already from the questionnary (Toon and Damiens)
3) SYMPOSIUM
Questions:
1- Is it a pirate event or not?
- Two kinds of approach for events like this:
- 'these are subject we as pirates are interested in, and that's why we invited authorities'
- these speakers are pirates and they speak in our name
- not all three speakers are 'official pirates', so we chose first approach
- who is organizing and paying?
- financial account of Pirate Party Belgium
- organization by P42 (vzw/asbl linked to Brussels pirate crew)
- who is our public?
- pirates and non-pirates
2- How do we fund the event?
- ask people to pay an entrance fee (idea not supported)
- put a donation box !!!
- sell things? pins or buttons?
- we want to keep it simple
- if speakers want to sell books:
- they announce it and organize it themselves
3- How do we promote the event?
- boost the event by paying on Facebook:
- the host of the event (Pirate Party Belgium) can boost it
- ask supporters to boost it (Promote Event)
- visibility is very low when you don't pay: Facebook is playing trics
- sharing event on Facebook pages related to basic income (everyone can do this individually)
- spread it through event websites (mention: 'sponsored by Pirate Party Belgium' instead of 'organized by PP Be)
- Politics.be, basisinkomen.be, Oikos, ...
- Twitter? what about the pirate Twitter accounts?
- flyers?
- graphic design? (brother of Danny!)
- flyer in pdf: digital flyers to spread on the internet, people can print it
- paper prints for universities, student bars, ...
4- Do we stream or film the event?
- no live streaming, can easily go wrong
- record and make a promotion film for social media??
- we need:
- cameraman and technical crew
- someone for montage
- material: good camera + statief
- we need:
5- How do we welcome new people and keep in touch?
- information about pirates: flyers
- mailing lists: gather mail adresses on paper !!!
- note on mailing lists:
- can be used to send invitation for the event!!
- mailing lists should be cleaned up
- huge work: there is no collection of all addresses in one place, there are many different mailinglists and in there you have all the different addresses
- we have to get it straight before we start using it again: bad impression
- avoid massive spam
- note on mailing lists:
TO DO LIST !!!!!
- start marketing and promotion: share the event through Twitter and Facebook (everyone)
- send event to specialised event websites
- cleaning up mailing lists? (huge work, will be topic of GA)
- camera and staief (Pascal and Toon)
- digital registration form (EventBright?) 'come early, full is full'
- digital flyer (brother Danny)
Pad