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Workgroup Pirate Lab
Date Sat 27 October 2018
Time 2:00pm
Venue L'Art de Rien
Rue Léopold 6
5030 Gembloux
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Pirate Lab October 2018

About this meeting

Pirate Labs can be seen as incubators for pirate projects. This is the perfect place for people to propose their ideas and to launch new projects.

If you have any ideas of projects, or want to help other projects, please do come!

We will use the meeting guidelines proposed by the internal democracy group. Please have a look at them before coming to the lab :)

Languages: English, français, nederlands

To-do list

  1. Define venue
  2. Confirm venue
  3. Create facebook event (then destroy facebook)


We will meet at Rue Léopold 6, in Gembloux.

Lab starts at 2 pm. For those who want to lunch together before the lab, they can coordinate on the following pad:


Suggestions for the agenda happen on this pad. We strongly advise you to read the pad before coming to this lab!


11 people were present at this lab. We decided to follow the Internal Democracy Guidelines, and after a roundtable, we decided to split..


Because it is not mandatory to have a unified project for elections in Wallonia and Flanders, and for practical reasons, we decided that the two regions would work each on their own electoral project. This still allows the two groups to share ideas during the next months.

Elections in Vlaanderen

Strategie voor samen te werken met andere intiatieven. :

  • Eén lijst samen geeft een hoop problemen: naam, welke volgorde,...
  • Piraten zijn internationaal interessant & hebben al wel een merknaam (in België nog niet)
  • Als we realistischerwijs door samenwerking 1 verkozene te hebben (vanuit 1 provincie) , dan kunnen we gemeenschappelijke lijstvorming bespreken, anders heeft het geen zin

Provincies : Mensen die een beetje kunnen/willen trekken

  • West Vlaanderen : Ilja => nog in groei, 2 minimumlijsten zou goed doel zijn & haalbaar. <= Antwerpen wil op bepaalde activiteiten komen ondersteunen
  • Oost Vlaanderen: Jonas: Gentsen oud piraten contacteren & vraag
  • Antwerpen: Christophe => Veel piraten, gaat erom om de provincie-piraten te activeren : 2 Lijsten moet zeker lukken
  • Limburg: Jolien: samen zitten met een paar Kandidaten daar om Een crew te starten
  • Vlaams Brabant : ? Oud piraten contacteren?? Leuvense crew polsen Tervuren?

2) Agressive campaign idea : "direct democracy" as basic point all pirates agree on : idea to focus on that (to avoid tension)

  • A symilar system as swiss as an 'example' goal. : legally reject laws, and legally have referendum (to make law)
  • "Agressive": we can use to be against 'cordon sanitaire' (in Flanders)

3) Media attention. "not top of mind", not a brand in the media : we are not in the heads of people.

4) Go on the street and speak to people

5) Only white men problem!

Elections in Wallonie

  • Une discussion a eu lieu pour mieux connaître les attentes et les disponibilités des différents pirates de Wallonie en vue des élections de mai 2019.
  • Les Pirates de Liège présenteront une liste Pirate aux régionales. Ils souhaitent idéalement que d'autres listes accompagnent le mouvement, en particulier la crew BW, mais celle-ci a déjà les mains pleines à cause/grâce au succès électoral de Kayoux à OLLN en octobre, même si Patrick (Tubize) est disponible. Il reste à voir ce que La Louvière envisage de son côté.

Project AGORA

We discussed about a project of streaming meetings in order to improve participatory. As the project is still at an early stage, we mainly brainstormed on the idea.