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=== Report ===
=== Report ===
1) GENERAL ASSEMBLY: end of January/mid February in Gent
- crew Gent is looking for a place to do it (Tuin of Eden)
- topics and content: via Loomio 'Pirate Open Assembly'
-- membership administration and welcoming
-- IT and infrastructure: who is maintaining the site? what about mailing lists?
-- general internal workings: structures and how they do relate
2) MANIFESTO
difference between program and manifesto:
- manifesto offers a vision, a dream
- program offers details
three strategies:
1- group/common manifesto = one text for all of us:
-- better for the political party
-- link with tech pirates?
-- good for the outer world, to convince people who don't know the pirates yet
-- singular, clear, convincing
-- difficult to make one common text, process will be messy
-- we have to find a way to provide a text like that
-- Toon and Damiens are working on a singular text: working on technical solution for 'how can we write that manifesto and make it democratically sustained (with ammendments and way to support them) > will take time!!
-- Vincent: how to merge different texts > http://emerge.shoutwiki.com
2- compilation of individual manifesto's:
-- better for the movement
-- link with social/relational pirates?
-- a bit messy, not consistent for the outer world
-- good for the internal group: everyone gives input
-- also possible for groups and crews to write their own manifesto
-- put all the manifesto's in a word cloud > see which topics are huge, and which ones are small
3- combination of both: the are compatible
-- make sure that both groups are represented (relational and tech)
-- there is a spectrum with black and white, but also grey: there is much more than social pirates and tech pirates (simplification), we have to focus on the common
-- both approaches can be combined: we can start with the individual manifesto's, and keep working on the tool for the central one
-- make a questionnary as a guidline for writing: why are you a pirate?
TO DO LIST !!!!!
1-- motivate people to write an individual manifesto (wait a little bit for the questionnary)
2-- make a questionnary: gather input for the common manifesto (Toon, Danny, Pascal, Jonas, Josse, Tim) > Toon is taking initiative on the Manifesto Working Group on Facebook
3-- tool to make a common manifesto, we have the input already from the questionnary (Toon and Damiens)
3) SYMPOSIUM
Questions:
1- Is it a pirate event or not?
- Two kinds of approach for events like this:
-- 'these are subject we as pirates are interested in, and that's why we invited authorities'
-- these speakers are pirates and they speak in our name
not all three speakers are 'official pirates', so we chose first approach
- who is organizing and paying?
-- financial account of Pirate Party Belgium
-- organization by P42 (vzw/asbl linked to Brussels pirate crew)
- who is our public?
-- pirates and non-pirates
2- How do we fund the event?
- ask people to pay an entrance fee (idea not supported)
- put a donation box !!!
- sell things? pins or buttons?
- we want to keep it simple
if speakers want to sell books:
- they announce it and organize it themselves
3- How do we promote the event?
- boost the event by paying on Facebook:
-- the host of the event (Pirate Party Belgium) can boost it
-- ask supporters to boost it (Promote Event)
-- visibility is very low when you don't pay: Facebook is playing trics
- sharing event on Facebook pages related to basic income (everyone can do this individually)
- spread it through event websites (mention: 'sponsored by Pirate Party Belgium' instead of 'organized by PP Be)
-- Politics.be, basisinkomen.be, Oikos, ...
- Twitter? what about the pirate Twitter accounts?
- flyers?
-- graphic design? (brother of Danny!)
-- flyer in pdf: digital flyers to spread on the internet, people can print it
-- paper prints for universities, student bars, ...
4- Do we stream or film the event?
- no live streaming, can easily go wrong
- record and make a promotion film for social media??
-- we need:
--- cameraman and technical crew
--- someone for montage
--- material: good camera + statief
5- How do we welcome new people and keep in touch?
- information about pirates: flyers
- mailing lists: gather mail adresses on paper !!!
-- note on mailing lists:
--- can be used to send invitation for the event!!
--- mailing lists should be cleaned up
--- huge work: there is no collection of all addresses in one place, there are many different mailinglists and in there you have all the different addresses
--- we have to get it straight before we start using it again: bad impression
--- avoid massive spam
TO DO LIST !!!!!
- start marketing and promotion: share the event through Twitter and Facebook (everyone)
- send event to specialised event websites
- cleaning up mailing lists? (huge work, will be topic of GA)
- camera and staief (Pascal and Toon)
- digital registration form (EventBright?) 'come early, full is full'
- digital flyer (brother Danny)


=== Pad ===
=== Pad ===

Revision as of 17:04, 26 September 2015

Pirate Lab in Mons - September 26th, 2015

On Saturday September 26th, 2015 at Café Europa, Mons

Open at 12am, Lab starts at 1pm.

Topics

  • 1) General Assembly
  • 2) Manifesto
  • 3) Symposium

Report

1) GENERAL ASSEMBLY: end of January/mid February in Gent

- crew Gent is looking for a place to do it (Tuin of Eden) - topics and content: via Loomio 'Pirate Open Assembly' -- membership administration and welcoming -- IT and infrastructure: who is maintaining the site? what about mailing lists? -- general internal workings: structures and how they do relate

2) MANIFESTO

difference between program and manifesto: - manifesto offers a vision, a dream - program offers details

three strategies: 1- group/common manifesto = one text for all of us: -- better for the political party -- link with tech pirates? -- good for the outer world, to convince people who don't know the pirates yet -- singular, clear, convincing -- difficult to make one common text, process will be messy -- we have to find a way to provide a text like that -- Toon and Damiens are working on a singular text: working on technical solution for 'how can we write that manifesto and make it democratically sustained (with ammendments and way to support them) > will take time!! -- Vincent: how to merge different texts > http://emerge.shoutwiki.com

2- compilation of individual manifesto's: -- better for the movement -- link with social/relational pirates? -- a bit messy, not consistent for the outer world -- good for the internal group: everyone gives input -- also possible for groups and crews to write their own manifesto -- put all the manifesto's in a word cloud > see which topics are huge, and which ones are small

3- combination of both: the are compatible -- make sure that both groups are represented (relational and tech) -- there is a spectrum with black and white, but also grey: there is much more than social pirates and tech pirates (simplification), we have to focus on the common -- both approaches can be combined: we can start with the individual manifesto's, and keep working on the tool for the central one -- make a questionnary as a guidline for writing: why are you a pirate?

TO DO LIST !!!!! 1-- motivate people to write an individual manifesto (wait a little bit for the questionnary) 2-- make a questionnary: gather input for the common manifesto (Toon, Danny, Pascal, Jonas, Josse, Tim) > Toon is taking initiative on the Manifesto Working Group on Facebook 3-- tool to make a common manifesto, we have the input already from the questionnary (Toon and Damiens)

3) SYMPOSIUM

Questions: 1- Is it a pirate event or not?

- Two kinds of approach for events like this: -- 'these are subject we as pirates are interested in, and that's why we invited authorities' -- these speakers are pirates and they speak in our name not all three speakers are 'official pirates', so we chose first approach

- who is organizing and paying? -- financial account of Pirate Party Belgium -- organization by P42 (vzw/asbl linked to Brussels pirate crew) - who is our public? -- pirates and non-pirates

2- How do we fund the event?

- ask people to pay an entrance fee (idea not supported) - put a donation box !!! - sell things? pins or buttons? - we want to keep it simple

if speakers want to sell books: - they announce it and organize it themselves

3- How do we promote the event?

- boost the event by paying on Facebook: -- the host of the event (Pirate Party Belgium) can boost it -- ask supporters to boost it (Promote Event) -- visibility is very low when you don't pay: Facebook is playing trics - sharing event on Facebook pages related to basic income (everyone can do this individually) - spread it through event websites (mention: 'sponsored by Pirate Party Belgium' instead of 'organized by PP Be) -- Politics.be, basisinkomen.be, Oikos, ... - Twitter? what about the pirate Twitter accounts? - flyers? -- graphic design? (brother of Danny!) -- flyer in pdf: digital flyers to spread on the internet, people can print it -- paper prints for universities, student bars, ...

4- Do we stream or film the event?

- no live streaming, can easily go wrong - record and make a promotion film for social media?? -- we need: --- cameraman and technical crew --- someone for montage --- material: good camera + statief

5- How do we welcome new people and keep in touch?

- information about pirates: flyers - mailing lists: gather mail adresses on paper !!! -- note on mailing lists: --- can be used to send invitation for the event!! --- mailing lists should be cleaned up --- huge work: there is no collection of all addresses in one place, there are many different mailinglists and in there you have all the different addresses --- we have to get it straight before we start using it again: bad impression --- avoid massive spam

TO DO LIST !!!!! - start marketing and promotion: share the event through Twitter and Facebook (everyone) - send event to specialised event websites - cleaning up mailing lists? (huge work, will be topic of GA) - camera and staief (Pascal and Toon) - digital registration form (EventBright?) 'come early, full is full' - digital flyer (brother Danny)

Pad

direct link to the pad