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'''2) MANIFESTO'''
'''2) MANIFESTO'''


* difference between program and manifesto:
difference between program and manifesto:
** manifesto offers a vision, a dream
* manifesto offers a vision, a dream
** program offers details
* program offers details


* three strategies:
three strategies:
** 1- group/common manifesto = one text for all of us:  
* 1- group/common manifesto = one text for all of us:  
*** better for the political party
** better for the political party
*** link with tech pirates?
** link with tech pirates?
*** good for the outer world, to convince people who don't know the pirates yet
** good for the outer world, to convince people who don't know the pirates yet
*** singular, clear, convincing
** singular, clear, convincing
*** difficult to make one common text, process will be messy
** difficult to make one common text, process will be messy
*** we have to find a way to provide a text like that
** we have to find a way to provide a text like that
*** Toon and Damiens are working on a singular text: working on technical solution for 'how can we write that manifesto and make it democratically sustained (with ammendments and way to support them) > will take time!!
** Toon and Damiens are working on a singular text: working on technical solution for 'how can we write that manifesto and make it democratically sustained (with ammendments and way to support them) > will take time!!
*** Vincent: how to merge different texts > http://emerge.shoutwiki.com
** Vincent: how to merge different texts > http://emerge.shoutwiki.com


** 2- compilation of individual manifesto's:
* 2- compilation of individual manifesto's:
*** better for the movement
** better for the movement
*** link with social/relational pirates?
** link with social/relational pirates?
*** a bit messy, not consistent for the outer world
** a bit messy, not consistent for the outer world
*** good for the internal group: everyone gives input
** good for the internal group: everyone gives input
*** also possible for groups and crews to write their own manifesto
** also possible for groups and crews to write their own manifesto
*** put all the manifesto's in a word cloud > see which topics are huge, and which ones are small
** put all the manifesto's in a word cloud > see which topics are huge, and which ones are small


** 3- combination of both: the are compatible
* 3- combination of both: the are compatible
*** make sure that both groups are represented (relational and tech)
** make sure that both groups are represented (relational and tech)
*** there is a spectrum with black and white, but also grey: there is much more than social pirates and tech pirates (simplification), we have to focus on the common
** there is a spectrum with black and white, but also grey: there is much more than social pirates and tech pirates (simplification), we have to focus on the common
*** both approaches can be combined: we can start with the individual manifesto's, and keep working on the tool for the central one
** both approaches can be combined: we can start with the individual manifesto's, and keep working on the tool for the central one
*** make a questionnary as a guidline for writing: why are you a pirate?  
** make a questionnary as a guidline for writing: why are you a pirate?  


'''TO DO LIST !!!!!'''
'''TO DO LIST !!!!!'''

Revision as of 16:17, 26 September 2015

Pirate Lab in Mons - September 26th, 2015

On Saturday September 26th, 2015 at Café Europa, Mons

Open at 12am, Lab starts at 1pm.

Topics

  • 1) General Assembly
  • 2) Manifesto
  • 3) Symposium

Report

1) GENERAL ASSEMBLY:

  • end of January/mid February in Gent
  • crew Gent is looking for a place to do it (Tuin of Eden)
  • topics and content: via Loomio 'Pirate Open Assembly'
    • membership administration and welcoming
    • IT and infrastructure: who is maintaining the site? what about mailing lists?
    • general internal workings: structures and how they do relate

2) MANIFESTO

difference between program and manifesto:

  • manifesto offers a vision, a dream
  • program offers details

three strategies:

  • 1- group/common manifesto = one text for all of us:
    • better for the political party
    • link with tech pirates?
    • good for the outer world, to convince people who don't know the pirates yet
    • singular, clear, convincing
    • difficult to make one common text, process will be messy
    • we have to find a way to provide a text like that
    • Toon and Damiens are working on a singular text: working on technical solution for 'how can we write that manifesto and make it democratically sustained (with ammendments and way to support them) > will take time!!
    • Vincent: how to merge different texts > http://emerge.shoutwiki.com
  • 2- compilation of individual manifesto's:
    • better for the movement
    • link with social/relational pirates?
    • a bit messy, not consistent for the outer world
    • good for the internal group: everyone gives input
    • also possible for groups and crews to write their own manifesto
    • put all the manifesto's in a word cloud > see which topics are huge, and which ones are small
  • 3- combination of both: the are compatible
    • make sure that both groups are represented (relational and tech)
    • there is a spectrum with black and white, but also grey: there is much more than social pirates and tech pirates (simplification), we have to focus on the common
    • both approaches can be combined: we can start with the individual manifesto's, and keep working on the tool for the central one
    • make a questionnary as a guidline for writing: why are you a pirate?

TO DO LIST !!!!!

  • 1- motivate people to write an individual manifesto (wait a little bit for the questionnary)
  • 2- make a questionnary: gather input for the common manifesto (Toon, Danny, Pascal, Jonas, Josse, Tim) > Toon is taking initiative on the Manifesto Working Group on Facebook
  • 3- tool to make a common manifesto, we have the input already from the questionnary (Toon and Damiens)

3) SYMPOSIUM

Questions:

  • 1- Is it a pirate event or not?
    • Two kinds of approach for events like this:
      • 'these are subject we as pirates are interested in, and that's why we invited authorities'
      • these speakers are pirates and they speak in our name

not all three speakers are 'official pirates', so we chose first approach

    • who is organizing and paying?
      • financial account of Pirate Party Belgium
      • organization by P42 (vzw/asbl linked to Brussels pirate crew)
    • who is our public?
      • pirates and non-pirates
  • 2- How do we fund the event?
    • ask people to pay an entrance fee (idea not supported)
    • put a donation box !!!
    • sell things? pins or buttons?
    • we want to keep it simple
    • if speakers want to sell books:
      • they announce it and organize it themselves
  • 3- How do we promote the event?
    • boost the event by paying on Facebook:
      • the host of the event (Pirate Party Belgium) can boost it
      • ask supporters to boost it (Promote Event)
      • visibility is very low when you don't pay: Facebook is playing trics
    • sharing event on Facebook pages related to basic income (everyone can do this individually)
    • spread it through event websites (mention: 'sponsored by Pirate Party Belgium' instead of 'organized by PP Be)
      • Politics.be, basisinkomen.be, Oikos, ...
    • Twitter? what about the pirate Twitter accounts?
    • flyers?
      • graphic design? (brother of Danny!)
      • flyer in pdf: digital flyers to spread on the internet, people can print it
      • paper prints for universities, student bars, ...
  • 4- Do we stream or film the event?
    • no live streaming, can easily go wrong
    • record and make a promotion film for social media??
      • we need:
        • cameraman and technical crew
        • someone for montage
        • material: good camera + statief
  • 5- How do we welcome new people and keep in touch?
    • information about pirates: flyers
    • mailing lists: gather mail adresses on paper !!!
      • note on mailing lists:
        • can be used to send invitation for the event!!
        • mailing lists should be cleaned up
        • huge work: there is no collection of all addresses in one place, there are many different mailinglists and in there you have all the different addresses
        • we have to get it straight before we start using it again: bad impression
        • avoid massive spam

TO DO LIST !!!!!

  • start marketing and promotion: share the event through Twitter and Facebook (everyone)
  • send event to specialised event websites
  • cleaning up mailing lists? (huge work, will be topic of GA)
  • camera and staief (Pascal and Toon)
  • digital registration form (EventBright?) 'come early, full is full'
  • digital flyer (brother Danny)

Pad

direct link to the pad