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** 2- compilation of individual manifesto's:
** 2- compilation of individual manifesto's:
-- better for the movement
*** better for the movement
-- link with social/relational pirates?
*** link with social/relational pirates?
-- a bit messy, not consistent for the outer world
*** a bit messy, not consistent for the outer world
-- good for the internal group: everyone gives input
*** good for the internal group: everyone gives input
-- also possible for groups and crews to write their own manifesto
*** also possible for groups and crews to write their own manifesto
-- put all the manifesto's in a word cloud > see which topics are huge, and which ones are small
*** put all the manifesto's in a word cloud > see which topics are huge, and which ones are small


3- combination of both: the are compatible
** 3- combination of both: the are compatible
-- make sure that both groups are represented (relational and tech)
*** make sure that both groups are represented (relational and tech)
-- there is a spectrum with black and white, but also grey: there is much more than social pirates and tech pirates (simplification), we have to focus on the common
*** there is a spectrum with black and white, but also grey: there is much more than social pirates and tech pirates (simplification), we have to focus on the common
-- both approaches can be combined: we can start with the individual manifesto's, and keep working on the tool for the central one
*** both approaches can be combined: we can start with the individual manifesto's, and keep working on the tool for the central one
-- make a questionnary as a guidline for writing: why are you a pirate?  
*** make a questionnary as a guidline for writing: why are you a pirate?  


TO DO LIST !!!!!
'''TO DO LIST !!!!!'''
1-- motivate people to write an individual manifesto (wait a little bit for the questionnary)
* 1- motivate people to write an individual manifesto (wait a little bit for the questionnary)
2-- make a questionnary: gather input for the common manifesto (Toon, Danny, Pascal, Jonas, Josse, Tim) > Toon is taking initiative on the Manifesto Working Group on Facebook
* 2- make a questionnary: gather input for the common manifesto (Toon, Danny, Pascal, Jonas, Josse, Tim) > Toon is taking initiative on the Manifesto Working Group on Facebook
3-- tool to make a common manifesto, we have the input already from the questionnary (Toon and Damiens)
* 3- tool to make a common manifesto, we have the input already from the questionnary (Toon and Damiens)


'''3) SYMPOSIUM'''
'''3) SYMPOSIUM'''
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--- avoid massive spam
--- avoid massive spam


TO DO LIST !!!!!
'''TO DO LIST !!!!!'''
- start marketing and promotion: share the event through Twitter and Facebook (everyone)
- start marketing and promotion: share the event through Twitter and Facebook (everyone)
- send event to specialised event websites
- send event to specialised event websites

Revision as of 16:09, 26 September 2015

Pirate Lab in Mons - September 26th, 2015

On Saturday September 26th, 2015 at Café Europa, Mons

Open at 12am, Lab starts at 1pm.

Topics

  • 1) General Assembly
  • 2) Manifesto
  • 3) Symposium

Report

1) GENERAL ASSEMBLY:

  • end of January/mid February in Gent
  • crew Gent is looking for a place to do it (Tuin of Eden)
  • topics and content: via Loomio 'Pirate Open Assembly'
    • membership administration and welcoming
    • IT and infrastructure: who is maintaining the site? what about mailing lists?
    • general internal workings: structures and how they do relate

2) MANIFESTO

  • difference between program and manifesto:
    • manifesto offers a vision, a dream
    • program offers details
  • three strategies:
    • 1- group/common manifesto = one text for all of us:
      • better for the political party
      • link with tech pirates?
      • good for the outer world, to convince people who don't know the pirates yet
      • singular, clear, convincing
      • difficult to make one common text, process will be messy
      • we have to find a way to provide a text like that
      • Toon and Damiens are working on a singular text: working on technical solution for 'how can we write that manifesto and make it democratically sustained (with ammendments and way to support them) > will take time!!
      • Vincent: how to merge different texts > http://emerge.shoutwiki.com
    • 2- compilation of individual manifesto's:
      • better for the movement
      • link with social/relational pirates?
      • a bit messy, not consistent for the outer world
      • good for the internal group: everyone gives input
      • also possible for groups and crews to write their own manifesto
      • put all the manifesto's in a word cloud > see which topics are huge, and which ones are small
    • 3- combination of both: the are compatible
      • make sure that both groups are represented (relational and tech)
      • there is a spectrum with black and white, but also grey: there is much more than social pirates and tech pirates (simplification), we have to focus on the common
      • both approaches can be combined: we can start with the individual manifesto's, and keep working on the tool for the central one
      • make a questionnary as a guidline for writing: why are you a pirate?

TO DO LIST !!!!!

  • 1- motivate people to write an individual manifesto (wait a little bit for the questionnary)
  • 2- make a questionnary: gather input for the common manifesto (Toon, Danny, Pascal, Jonas, Josse, Tim) > Toon is taking initiative on the Manifesto Working Group on Facebook
  • 3- tool to make a common manifesto, we have the input already from the questionnary (Toon and Damiens)

3) SYMPOSIUM

Questions: 1- Is it a pirate event or not?

- Two kinds of approach for events like this: -- 'these are subject we as pirates are interested in, and that's why we invited authorities' -- these speakers are pirates and they speak in our name not all three speakers are 'official pirates', so we chose first approach

- who is organizing and paying? -- financial account of Pirate Party Belgium -- organization by P42 (vzw/asbl linked to Brussels pirate crew) - who is our public? -- pirates and non-pirates

2- How do we fund the event?

- ask people to pay an entrance fee (idea not supported) - put a donation box !!! - sell things? pins or buttons? - we want to keep it simple

if speakers want to sell books: - they announce it and organize it themselves

3- How do we promote the event?

- boost the event by paying on Facebook: -- the host of the event (Pirate Party Belgium) can boost it -- ask supporters to boost it (Promote Event) -- visibility is very low when you don't pay: Facebook is playing trics - sharing event on Facebook pages related to basic income (everyone can do this individually) - spread it through event websites (mention: 'sponsored by Pirate Party Belgium' instead of 'organized by PP Be) -- Politics.be, basisinkomen.be, Oikos, ... - Twitter? what about the pirate Twitter accounts? - flyers? -- graphic design? (brother of Danny!) -- flyer in pdf: digital flyers to spread on the internet, people can print it -- paper prints for universities, student bars, ...

4- Do we stream or film the event?

- no live streaming, can easily go wrong - record and make a promotion film for social media?? -- we need: --- cameraman and technical crew --- someone for montage --- material: good camera + statief

5- How do we welcome new people and keep in touch?

- information about pirates: flyers - mailing lists: gather mail adresses on paper !!! -- note on mailing lists: --- can be used to send invitation for the event!! --- mailing lists should be cleaned up --- huge work: there is no collection of all addresses in one place, there are many different mailinglists and in there you have all the different addresses --- we have to get it straight before we start using it again: bad impression --- avoid massive spam

TO DO LIST !!!!! - start marketing and promotion: share the event through Twitter and Facebook (everyone) - send event to specialised event websites - cleaning up mailing lists? (huge work, will be topic of GA) - camera and staief (Pascal and Toon) - digital registration form (EventBright?) 'come early, full is full' - digital flyer (brother Danny)

Pad

direct link to the pad