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== Parley.be Hetzner IP is black listed by default by Microsoft ==
== Parley.be Hetzner IP is black listed by default by Microsoft ==


# The PPBE it-squad have a VPS server hosted by Hetzner to be used as our mail server.
The PPBE it-squad have a VPS server hosted by [[ITNow#Hetzner|Hetzner]] to be used as our mail server.
# The Hetzner IP ranges are black listed by Microsoft and Microsoft is not very transparent about their black list management.  They block and we can join some «free program» offered by their services.  But to do so, off course we need to have an account on their network.  A «real person account».  
 
# On one of their wiki pages, Hetzner suggest to join one of those Microsoft Programs on [https://wiki.hetzner.de/index.php/Microsoft_Blacklist/en their wiki support pages]
The Hetzner IP ranges are black listed by Microsoft and Microsoft is not very transparent about their black list management.  They block and we can join some «free program» offered by their services.  But to do so, off course we need to have an account on their network.  A «real person account».  
#* [https://postmaster.live.com/snds/JMRP.aspx?wa=wsignin1.0 Junk Email Reporting program (JMRP)]
 
#* [http://postmaster.live.com/snds/ Smart Network Data Services (SNDS)]
On [https://wiki.hetzner.de/index.php/Microsoft_Blacklist/en one of their support wiki pages], Hetzner suggest to join one of those Microsoft Programs:
# The «notes» from the wikipage of Hetzner may have to be taken in account!
* [https://postmaster.live.com/snds/JMRP.aspx?wa=wsignin1.0 Junk Email Reporting program (JMRP)]
#* For easy verification by us, please register with details that are the same, or at least similar, as those used in the Robot.
* [http://postmaster.live.com/snds/ Smart Network Data Services (SNDS)]
#** About that, we may have to modify the the DNS, Hetzner, Infomaniak '''owners and account details'''.
 
#* Please send authorization requests to info@hetzner.de (or abuse@hetzner.de).
The «notes» from the wikipage of Hetzner may have to be taken in account!
#* The SNDS does not allow you to delist your IP. (=we can monitor, but we have no power)
* For easy verification by us, please register with details that are the same, or at least similar, as those used in the Robot.
# To do so ... We need an official and personnal mail account on the Microsoft Network
** About that, we may have to modify the the DNS, Hetzner, Infomaniak '''owners and account details'''.
# [https://signup.live.com/signup Create an account] on the Microsoft network.
* Please send authorization requests to info@hetzner.de (or abuse@hetzner.de).
#* Give name, last name, new password, phone, ...
* The SNDS does not allow you to delist your IP. ''(=we can monitor, but we have no power)''
#* Accept : [https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/servicesagreement/default.aspx Microsoft Services Agreement] (which I refuse)
 
#* Accept : [https://privacy.microsoft.com/en-us/privacystatement Microsoft Privacy Statement] (which I refuse)
To do so ... We need [https://signup.live.com/signup to create] an official and personal mail account on the Microsoft Network
#* We tried with itsquad.ppbe@outlook.be (Anne Bonny ^_^) in June 2017. The account is now suspended.
* Give name, last name, new password, phone, ...
# Once it is done it is possible to fill some forms and provide the IP address we which to «monitor» or put in the «white list»
* Accept : [https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/servicesagreement/default.aspx Microsoft Services Agreement] (which I refuse)
# After that, a Docusign document is sent to the person who did create the account and which was chose as a «responsible/signator».
* Accept : [https://privacy.microsoft.com/en-us/privacystatement Microsoft Privacy Statement] (which I refuse, [https://pad.pirateparty.be/p/D%C3%A9claration_de_confidentialit%C3%A9_Microsoft here are some of the reasons])
#* We tried in June 2017 but we where not prepared and the [https://www.docusign.net/Signing/EnvelopeIsVoid.aspx?ti=4ddf03ede02448498c726ac3038034ee document is expired].
* We tried with itsquad.ppbe@outlook.be (Anne Bonny ^_^) [[ITSquad/Meeting/04 06 2017|in June 2017]]. The account is now suspended.
# After it ... we do not know :D
 
Once it is done it is possible to fill some forms and provide the IP address we which to «monitor» or put in the «white list»
 
After that, a [https://www.docusign.com/ Docusign] document is sent to the person who did create the account and which was chose as a «responsible/signator».
* We tried in June 2017 but we where not prepared and the [https://www.docusign.net/Member/EmailStart.aspx?a=8dfa642d-9543-4b2a-92b0-5b2ef4133d6d&acct=7c8e2cfe-8dbd-41be-a9a2-ebb7cce455dc&er=8e8c11ab-21c8-4980-9a1b-19a168801300 document is expired].
 
After it ... we do not know :D
 
== Companies involved in the process ==
 
=== Hetzner ===
 
A German Hosting provide who's network is black listed by Microsoft (to ''protect their users against spam'').
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hetzner
 
=== Microsoft ===
 
A major American Software company hosting mailboxes for many users under domains like hotmail.xyz, outlook.xyz, live.xyz and Office 365 Personal or Business products.
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft
 
=== Docusign ===
 
An American company running business related to ''eSignature Transaction Management''.
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DocuSign
 
In 2004 the company was [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DocuSign#Funding funded] by [https://www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=6236134 Frasier Venture Capital] and by [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scale_Venture_Partners Scale Venture Partners] in 2010<ref name="Scale">[http://www.xconomy.com/seattle/2011/01/28/washington-startups-see-spike-in-investing-dollars-in-december/?single_page=true Washington Startups See Spike in Investing Dollars in December] Kutz, Erin ''Xconomy'' January 28, 2011</ref>.
 
=== Scale Venture Partners ===
 
An American investment company.
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scale_Venture_Partners
 
== What I personally dislikes ==
 
To be ''forced'' to create an account on Microsoft network, to be ''allowed'' to sign an electronic document handled by Docusign who received money from Scale Venture Partners who is selling the companies they invests on to Microsoft, Oracle, Adobe, Salesforce ...
 
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scale_Venture_Partners#Investments
 
== They talk about it ==
 
* https://mastodon.pirateparty.be/@HgO/99683614277332733
* https://blog.libertus.eu/post/2016/02/15/Microsoft%2C-je-te-chie-dans-la-bouche
 
== References ==
 
<references/>

Latest revision as of 23:04, 14 March 2018

Parley.be Hetzner IP is black listed by default by Microsoft

The PPBE it-squad have a VPS server hosted by Hetzner to be used as our mail server.

The Hetzner IP ranges are black listed by Microsoft and Microsoft is not very transparent about their black list management. They block and we can join some «free program» offered by their services. But to do so, off course we need to have an account on their network. A «real person account».

On one of their support wiki pages, Hetzner suggest to join one of those Microsoft Programs:

The «notes» from the wikipage of Hetzner may have to be taken in account!

  • For easy verification by us, please register with details that are the same, or at least similar, as those used in the Robot.
    • About that, we may have to modify the the DNS, Hetzner, Infomaniak owners and account details.
  • Please send authorization requests to info@hetzner.de (or abuse@hetzner.de).
  • The SNDS does not allow you to delist your IP. (=we can monitor, but we have no power)

To do so ... We need to create an official and personal mail account on the Microsoft Network

Once it is done it is possible to fill some forms and provide the IP address we which to «monitor» or put in the «white list»

After that, a Docusign document is sent to the person who did create the account and which was chose as a «responsible/signator».

After it ... we do not know :D

Companies involved in the process

Hetzner

A German Hosting provide who's network is black listed by Microsoft (to protect their users against spam).

Microsoft

A major American Software company hosting mailboxes for many users under domains like hotmail.xyz, outlook.xyz, live.xyz and Office 365 Personal or Business products.

Docusign

An American company running business related to eSignature Transaction Management.

In 2004 the company was funded by Frasier Venture Capital and by Scale Venture Partners in 2010[1].

Scale Venture Partners

An American investment company.

What I personally dislikes

To be forced to create an account on Microsoft network, to be allowed to sign an electronic document handled by Docusign who received money from Scale Venture Partners who is selling the companies they invests on to Microsoft, Oracle, Adobe, Salesforce ...

They talk about it

References

  1. ↑ Washington Startups See Spike in Investing Dollars in December Kutz, Erin Xconomy January 28, 2011
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