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=== 1.1 Renumeratie van mandaten - Réemunéeration des mandats ===
 
=== 1.1 Renumeratie van mandaten - Réemunéeration des mandats ===
  
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==== Vote 1:  13 green / 14 red -> postponed ====
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==== Vote 1:  (Postponed) ====
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13 green / 14 red  
  
 
*Discussions:
 
*Discussions:
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=== 1.2 Cotisation des membres - Lidgeld ===
 
=== 1.2 Cotisation des membres - Lidgeld ===
  
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==== Vote 2: -> D accepted ====
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==== Vote 2: D ====
  
 
2,5 euro/month (A or C): 4
 
2,5 euro/month (A or C): 4
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D: big majority -> accepted
 
D: big majority -> accepted
  
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== Motie 2: Conflicten oplossen - Motion 2: R�esolution des conflits ==
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== Motie 2: Conflicten oplossen - Motion 2: Résolution des conflits ==
  
 
=== 2.1 Moderatie - Moderation ===
 
=== 2.1 Moderatie - Moderation ===
  
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==== Vote 3: accepted ====
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==== Vote 3: accepted ====
  
 
==== Vote 4: accepted ====
 
==== Vote 4: accepted ====
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=== 2.2 Verzoenings- en tuchtcommissie - Commission de conciliation et de discipline ===
 
=== 2.2 Verzoenings- en tuchtcommissie - Commission de conciliation et de discipline ===
  
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==== Vote 5: accepted  ====
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==== Vote 5: accepted  ====
  
 
Remove "bestuur" from dutch version
 
Remove "bestuur" from dutch version
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==== Vote 6: accepted ====
 
==== Vote 6: accepted ====
  
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==== Vote 7: ====
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==== Vote 7: A ====
  
 
A: accepted
 
A: accepted
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Group (red) : 15
 
Group (red) : 15
  
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Entity is defined as "minimum 3 pirates" at the majority
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'''Entity is defined as "minimum 3 pirates" at the majority'''
  
 
==== Vote 8: accepted ====
 
==== Vote 8: accepted ====
  
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==== Vote 9: 13  green / 9 red -> accepted ====
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==== Vote 9: accepted with a warning ====
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13  green / 9 red ->  
  
 
Remark: not majority of voters obtained + alot of abstention
 
Remark: not majority of voters obtained + alot of abstention
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==== Vote 11: accepted ====
 
==== Vote 11: accepted ====
  
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==== Vote 12: ====
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==== Vote 12: B accepted ====
  
 
A : green : 13
 
A : green : 13
  
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B: red : 15 -> accepted
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B: red : 15 accepted
  
 
==== Vote 13: accepted ====
 
==== Vote 13: accepted ====
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Remark: remove "coreteam election" because it's every 6 months
 
Remark: remove "coreteam election" because it's every 6 months
  
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==== Vote 14: ====
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==== Vote 14: (Postponed) ====
  
 
The coreteam has to confirm the suspension/exclusion for every decision (not only before the elections) :  13 green / 13 red   
 
The coreteam has to confirm the suspension/exclusion for every decision (not only before the elections) :  13 green / 13 red   
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==== Vote 15: accepted ====
 
==== Vote 15: accepted ====
 
==== Vote 16: accepted ====
 
==== Vote 16: accepted ====
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==== Vote 17: ====
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==== Vote 17: B ====
 
A green :  
 
A green :  
  
 
B red : accepted
 
B red : accepted
  
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Vote 18: accepted
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==== Vote 18: accepted ====
  
 
Idea from the the discussion :
 
Idea from the the discussion :
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Remark : what's a project ? we will have to define this
 
Remark : what's a project ? we will have to define this
  
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==== Vote 19: ====
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==== Vote 19: A ====
 
A : rejected
 
A : rejected
  
 
B :  accepted
 
B :  accepted
  
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==== Vote 20: ====
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==== Vote 20: A & B====
  
 
Remark: if there is no coordination team, it's the coreteam that takes this role
 
Remark: if there is no coordination team, it's the coreteam that takes this role
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So we will skip 3.2 and 3.3
 
So we will skip 3.2 and 3.3
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=== 3.2 Secretariaat - secr�etariat ===
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=== 3.2 Secretariaat - secrétariat ===
  
 
==== Vote 22: (postponed) ====
 
==== Vote 22: (postponed) ====
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==== Vote 24: (postponed) ====
 
==== Vote 24: (postponed) ====
 
====Vote 25: (postponed) ====
 
====Vote 25: (postponed) ====
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=== 3.3 coordinatie-comit�e - comit�e de coordination ===
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=== 3.3 coördinatie-comite - comité de coordination ===
 
==== Vote 26: (postponed) ====
 
==== Vote 26: (postponed) ====
 
==== Vote 27: (postponed) ====
 
==== Vote 27: (postponed) ====
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Squads should be reworded "operational squads" in this context
 
Squads should be reworded "operational squads" in this context
  
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==== Vote 32: B and C ====
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==== Vote 32: B & C ====
 
A: accepted
 
A: accepted
 
B: accepted  
 
B: accepted  
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==== Vote 33: ====
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==== Vote 33: A & B====
 
A:accepted
 
A:accepted
 
B: accepted
 
B: accepted
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=== 3.6 Coordinatie-squad - L'escouade de coordination ===
 
=== 3.6 Coordinatie-squad - L'escouade de coordination ===
 
==== Vote 36: accepted ====
 
==== Vote 36: accepted ====
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==== Vote 37: 7 green / more red -> rejected ====
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==== Vote 37: rejected ====
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7 green / more red
 
==== Vote 38: accepted ===
 
==== Vote 38: accepted ===
 
==== 3.7 Coreteam-squad - L'escouade Coreteam ====
 
==== 3.7 Coreteam-squad - L'escouade Coreteam ====
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This is inconsistent with previous decisions -> will not vote 39
 
This is inconsistent with previous decisions -> will not vote 39
 
==== Vote 40: accepted ====
 
==== Vote 40: accepted ====
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=== 3.8 Financien-squad - L'escouade Finance ===
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=== 3.8 Financien-squad - L'escouade Finance ===
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==== Vote 41' : Who approves the budget ? ====
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==== Vote 41 : B accepted with a remark ====
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Who approves the budget ?
 
A green Coreteam : rejected
 
A green Coreteam : rejected
  
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Remarks : what will happen if the GA don't approve the budget ? -> need a proposal on that at next GA
 
Remarks : what will happen if the GA don't approve the budget ? -> need a proposal on that at next GA
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==== Vote 41: accepted (budget approved by the GA) ====
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==== Vote 42: accepted ====
 
==== Vote 42: accepted ====
 
=== 3.9 Algemene Vergadering-squad - L'escouade AG ===
 
=== 3.9 Algemene Vergadering-squad - L'escouade AG ===
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=== 3.14 Naam - Nom ===
 
=== 3.14 Naam - Nom ===
 
It's about finding a name for the "operational squads"
 
It's about finding a name for the "operational squads"
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==== Vote 48: ====
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==== Vote 48: Operational Squad ====
  
 
Operational Squads (vs. "who cares" vs. "squads" vs. "organs")
 
Operational Squads (vs. "who cares" vs. "squads" vs. "organs")
  
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=== 3.15 Procedures - Proc�edures ===
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=== 3.15 Procedures - Procédures ===
 
==== Vote 49: ====
 
==== Vote 49: ====
 
Issue with wording: motie van wantrouwen and motion de défiance instead of vertrouwen/confiance. It's about getting someone out.
 
Issue with wording: motie van wantrouwen and motion de défiance instead of vertrouwen/confiance. It's about getting someone out.
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Voted for simple majority (not special majority)
 
Voted for simple majority (not special majority)
  
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Vote 49' : also apply to the coreteam -> accepted
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==== Vote 49' : Accepted ====
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also applies to the coreteam -> accepted
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==== Vote 50: accepted ====
 
==== Vote 50: accepted ====

Revision as of 09:09, 10 August 2014

Contents

Intro

We have been voting on the following document.

Total voters : 32

Results

Motie 1 : Financiëen - Motion 1 : Finances

1.1 Renumeratie van mandaten - Réemunéeration des mandats

Vote 1: (Postponed)

13 green / 14 red

  • Discussions:

These number don"t mean anything, 22,5% have to be specified and we need a distinction between full-time and part-time mandates

a percentage of the national revenues should go towards the crews, in order to allocate a budget.

The underlying question is how strongly the elected people should be connected to the party (does one deal with his-her budget all alone,or is he-she getting it back from the party with help

full time job versus city councelors

maximum wage/minimum wage for elected people (put a cap to avoid people who come just for the money)

Budget of the party could be voted on the GAs so that we know what will happen to the money

more proposals will be made on a next GA

use crowd funding

should the elected people be paid than give some part to the party or give all their remuneration to the party that will give them back a "salary"

1.2 Cotisation des membres - Lidgeld

Vote 2: D

2,5 euro/month (A or C): 4

1 euro/year (B or D): big majority

B:

D: big majority -> accepted

Motie 2: Conflicten oplossen - Motion 2: Résolution des conflits

2.1 Moderatie - Moderation

Vote 3: accepted

Vote 4: accepted

if not the GA, it will be the squads managing the channels

2.2 Verzoenings- en tuchtcommissie - Commission de conciliation et de discipline

Vote 5: accepted

Remove "bestuur" from dutch version

Vote 6: accepted

Vote 7: A

A: accepted

B (simple majority) : rejected de facto since we have choosen A

C (special majority) : idem

Remarks: What does entity mean ?

Person (green) : 14

Group (red) : 15

Entity is defined as "minimum 3 pirates" at the majority

Vote 8: accepted

Vote 9: accepted with a warning

13 green / 9 red ->

Remark: not majority of voters obtained + alot of abstention

The member of the coreteam have to be cautious when using this

Vote 10: accepted

Vote 11: accepted

Vote 12: B accepted

A : green : 13

B: red : 15 accepted

Vote 13: accepted

Remark: remove "coreteam election" because it's every 6 months

Vote 14: (Postponed)

The coreteam has to confirm the suspension/exclusion for every decision (not only before the elections) : 13 green / 13 red

Postponed for later in the day

Remarks:

if the coreteam doesn't validate => escalade to the GA

we need to reformulate this proposition for the next GA

A: green :

B: red :

Remark the decision will supercede vote 13

Vote 15: accepted

Vote 16: accepted

Vote 17: B

A green :

B red : accepted

Vote 18: accepted

Idea from the the discussion :

motivation of the decision from the conflict resolution group/mediation team

2.3 Projecten - Projets

Remark : what's a project ? we will have to define this

Vote 19: A

A : rejected

B : accepted

Vote 20: A & B

Remark: if there is no coordination team, it's the coreteam that takes this role

A : accepted B: 15 green / 10 red -> accepted

Motie 3: Structuur - Motion 3: Structure

3.1 Coreteam - Coreteam

Vote 21: 13 green / 14 red --> postponed

a new proposal will be made based on the discussions prior to voting

So we will skip 3.2 and 3.3

3.2 Secretariaat - secrétariat

Vote 22: (postponed)

Vote 23: (postponed)

Vote 24: (postponed)

Vote 25: (postponed)

3.3 coördinatie-comite - comité de coordination

Vote 26: (postponed)

Vote 27: (postponed)

Vote 28: (postponed)

Vote 29: (postponed)

Vote 30: (postponed)

Vote 31: (postponed)

3.4 Squads - Squads

Remark : the squads concerned by vote 32-35 are defined afterwards

Vote on the general principle to delegate certain responsibilities of the coreteam to squads and to allow the coreteam to take back those

responsibilities (decision at the simple majority) -> accepted

Squads should be reworded "operational squads" in this context

Vote 32: B & C

A: accepted B: accepted

Vote 33: A & B

A:accepted B: accepted

Vote 34: accepted

3.5 Coaching-squad - L'escouade Coaching

Vote 35: accepted

3.6 Coordinatie-squad - L'escouade de coordination

Vote 36: accepted

Vote 37: rejected

7 green / more red

= Vote 38: accepted

3.7 Coreteam-squad - L'escouade Coreteam

Vote 39: not voted

This is inconsistent with previous decisions -> will not vote 39

Vote 40: accepted

3.8 Financien-squad - L'escouade Finance

Vote 41 : B accepted with a remark

Who approves the budget ? A green Coreteam : rejected

B red GA : accepted

Remarks : what will happen if the GA don't approve the budget ? -> need a proposal on that at next GA

Vote 42: accepted

3.9 Algemene Vergadering-squad - L'escouade AG

Vote 43: accepted

3.10 IT-squad - L'escouade IT

Vote 44: accepted

3.11 Pers-squad - L'escouade Presse

NB: not about opinion letters (in personal name), only press releases of the party

Question: what about local press?

Vote 45: accepted

3.12 Secretariaat-squad - L'escouade Secr�etariat

Question: shouldn't we make it possible for the coreteam to access the list of members by itself?

Vote 46: accepted

3.13 Wiki-squad - L'escouade Wiki

Vote 47: accepted

3.14 Naam - Nom

It's about finding a name for the "operational squads"

Vote 48: Operational Squad

Operational Squads (vs. "who cares" vs. "squads" vs. "organs")

3.15 Procedures - Procédures

Vote 49:

Issue with wording: motie van wantrouwen and motion de défiance instead of vertrouwen/confiance. It's about getting someone out.

Voted for simple majority (not special majority)

Vote 49' : Accepted

also applies to the coreteam -> accepted

Vote 50: accepted

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