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=== 1.1 Renumeratie van mandaten - Réemunéeration des mandats === | === 1.1 Renumeratie van mandaten - Réemunéeration des mandats === | ||
==== Vote 1: 13 green / 14 red | ==== Vote 1: (Postponed) ==== | ||
13 green / 14 red | |||
*Discussions: | *Discussions: | ||
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=== 1.2 Cotisation des membres - Lidgeld === | === 1.2 Cotisation des membres - Lidgeld === | ||
==== Vote 2: | ==== Vote 2: D ==== | ||
2,5 euro/month (A or C): 4 | 2,5 euro/month (A or C): 4 | ||
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D: big majority -> accepted | D: big majority -> accepted | ||
== Motie 2: Conflicten oplossen - Motion 2: | == Motie 2: Conflicten oplossen - Motion 2: Résolution des conflits == | ||
=== 2.1 Moderatie - Moderation === | === 2.1 Moderatie - Moderation === | ||
==== Vote 3: | ==== Vote 3: accepted ==== | ||
==== Vote 4: accepted ==== | ==== Vote 4: accepted ==== | ||
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=== 2.2 Verzoenings- en tuchtcommissie - Commission de conciliation et de discipline === | === 2.2 Verzoenings- en tuchtcommissie - Commission de conciliation et de discipline === | ||
==== Vote 5: | ==== Vote 5: accepted ==== | ||
Remove "bestuur" from dutch version | Remove "bestuur" from dutch version | ||
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==== Vote 6: accepted ==== | ==== Vote 6: accepted ==== | ||
==== Vote 7: ==== | ==== Vote 7: A ==== | ||
A: accepted | A: accepted | ||
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Group (red) : 15 | Group (red) : 15 | ||
Entity is defined as "minimum 3 pirates" at the majority | '''Entity is defined as "minimum 3 pirates" at the majority''' | ||
==== Vote 8: accepted ==== | ==== Vote 8: accepted ==== | ||
==== Vote 9: 13 green / 9 red -> | ==== Vote 9: accepted with a warning ==== | ||
13 green / 9 red -> | |||
Remark: not majority of voters obtained + alot of abstention | Remark: not majority of voters obtained + alot of abstention | ||
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==== Vote 11: accepted ==== | ==== Vote 11: accepted ==== | ||
==== Vote 12: | ==== Vote 12: B accepted ==== | ||
A : green : 13 | A : green : 13 | ||
B: red : 15 | B: red : 15 accepted | ||
==== Vote 13: accepted ==== | ==== Vote 13: accepted ==== | ||
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Remark: remove "coreteam election" because it's every 6 months | Remark: remove "coreteam election" because it's every 6 months | ||
==== Vote 14: ==== | ==== Vote 14: (Postponed) ==== | ||
The coreteam has to confirm the suspension/exclusion for every decision (not only before the elections) : 13 green / 13 red | The coreteam has to confirm the suspension/exclusion for every decision (not only before the elections) : 13 green / 13 red | ||
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==== Vote 15: accepted ==== | ==== Vote 15: accepted ==== | ||
==== Vote 16: accepted ==== | ==== Vote 16: accepted ==== | ||
==== Vote 17: ==== | ==== Vote 17: B ==== | ||
A green : | A green : | ||
B red : accepted | B red : accepted | ||
Vote 18: accepted | ==== Vote 18: accepted ==== | ||
Idea from the the discussion : | Idea from the the discussion : | ||
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Remark : what's a project ? we will have to define this | Remark : what's a project ? we will have to define this | ||
==== Vote 19: ==== | ==== Vote 19: A ==== | ||
A : rejected | A : rejected | ||
B : accepted | B : accepted | ||
==== Vote 20: ==== | ==== Vote 20: A & B==== | ||
Remark: if there is no coordination team, it's the coreteam that takes this role | Remark: if there is no coordination team, it's the coreteam that takes this role | ||
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So we will skip 3.2 and 3.3 | So we will skip 3.2 and 3.3 | ||
=== 3.2 Secretariaat - | === 3.2 Secretariaat - secrétariat === | ||
==== Vote 22: (postponed) ==== | ==== Vote 22: (postponed) ==== | ||
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==== Vote 24: (postponed) ==== | ==== Vote 24: (postponed) ==== | ||
====Vote 25: (postponed) ==== | ====Vote 25: (postponed) ==== | ||
=== 3.3 | === 3.3 coördinatie-comite - comité de coordination === | ||
==== Vote 26: (postponed) ==== | ==== Vote 26: (postponed) ==== | ||
==== Vote 27: (postponed) ==== | ==== Vote 27: (postponed) ==== | ||
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Squads should be reworded "operational squads" in this context | Squads should be reworded "operational squads" in this context | ||
==== Vote 32: B | ==== Vote 32: B & C ==== | ||
A: accepted | A: accepted | ||
B: accepted | B: accepted | ||
==== Vote 33: ==== | ==== Vote 33: A & B==== | ||
A:accepted | A:accepted | ||
B: accepted | B: accepted | ||
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=== 3.6 Coordinatie-squad - L'escouade de coordination === | === 3.6 Coordinatie-squad - L'escouade de coordination === | ||
==== Vote 36: accepted ==== | ==== Vote 36: accepted ==== | ||
==== Vote 37: 7 green / more red | ==== Vote 37: rejected ==== | ||
7 green / more red | |||
==== Vote 38: accepted === | ==== Vote 38: accepted === | ||
==== 3.7 Coreteam-squad - L'escouade Coreteam ==== | ==== 3.7 Coreteam-squad - L'escouade Coreteam ==== | ||
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This is inconsistent with previous decisions -> will not vote 39 | This is inconsistent with previous decisions -> will not vote 39 | ||
==== Vote 40: accepted ==== | ==== Vote 40: accepted ==== | ||
=== 3.8 | === 3.8 Financien-squad - L'escouade Finance === | ||
==== Vote 41 | |||
==== Vote 41 : B accepted with a remark ==== | |||
Who approves the budget ? | |||
A green Coreteam : rejected | A green Coreteam : rejected | ||
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Remarks : what will happen if the GA don't approve the budget ? -> need a proposal on that at next GA | Remarks : what will happen if the GA don't approve the budget ? -> need a proposal on that at next GA | ||
==== Vote 42: accepted ==== | ==== Vote 42: accepted ==== | ||
=== 3.9 Algemene Vergadering-squad - L'escouade AG === | === 3.9 Algemene Vergadering-squad - L'escouade AG === | ||
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=== 3.14 Naam - Nom === | === 3.14 Naam - Nom === | ||
It's about finding a name for the "operational squads" | It's about finding a name for the "operational squads" | ||
==== Vote 48: ==== | ==== Vote 48: Operational Squad ==== | ||
Operational Squads (vs. "who cares" vs. "squads" vs. "organs") | Operational Squads (vs. "who cares" vs. "squads" vs. "organs") | ||
=== 3.15 Procedures - | === 3.15 Procedures - Procédures === | ||
==== Vote 49: ==== | ==== Vote 49: ==== | ||
Issue with wording: motie van wantrouwen and motion de défiance instead of vertrouwen/confiance. It's about getting someone out. | Issue with wording: motie van wantrouwen and motion de défiance instead of vertrouwen/confiance. It's about getting someone out. | ||
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Voted for simple majority (not special majority) | Voted for simple majority (not special majority) | ||
Vote 49' : also | ==== Vote 49' : Accepted ==== | ||
also applies to the coreteam -> accepted | |||
==== Vote 50: accepted ==== | ==== Vote 50: accepted ==== |
Revision as of 08:09, 10 August 2014
Intro
We have been voting on the following document.
Total voters : 32
Results
Motie 1 : Financiëen - Motion 1 : Finances
1.1 Renumeratie van mandaten - Réemunéeration des mandats
Vote 1: (Postponed)
13 green / 14 red
- Discussions:
These number don"t mean anything, 22,5% have to be specified and we need a distinction between full-time and part-time mandates
a percentage of the national revenues should go towards the crews, in order to allocate a budget.
The underlying question is how strongly the elected people should be connected to the party (does one deal with his-her budget all alone,or is he-she getting it back from the party with help
full time job versus city councelors
maximum wage/minimum wage for elected people (put a cap to avoid people who come just for the money)
Budget of the party could be voted on the GAs so that we know what will happen to the money
more proposals will be made on a next GA
use crowd funding
should the elected people be paid than give some part to the party or give all their remuneration to the party that will give them back a "salary"
1.2 Cotisation des membres - Lidgeld
Vote 2: D
2,5 euro/month (A or C): 4
1 euro/year (B or D): big majority
B:
D: big majority -> accepted
Motie 2: Conflicten oplossen - Motion 2: Résolution des conflits
2.1 Moderatie - Moderation
Vote 3: accepted
Vote 4: accepted
if not the GA, it will be the squads managing the channels
2.2 Verzoenings- en tuchtcommissie - Commission de conciliation et de discipline
Vote 5: accepted
Remove "bestuur" from dutch version
Vote 6: accepted
Vote 7: A
A: accepted
B (simple majority) : rejected de facto since we have choosen A
C (special majority) : idem
Remarks: What does entity mean ?
Person (green) : 14
Group (red) : 15
Entity is defined as "minimum 3 pirates" at the majority
Vote 8: accepted
Vote 9: accepted with a warning
13 green / 9 red ->
Remark: not majority of voters obtained + alot of abstention
The member of the coreteam have to be cautious when using this
Vote 10: accepted
Vote 11: accepted
Vote 12: B accepted
A : green : 13
B: red : 15 accepted
Vote 13: accepted
Remark: remove "coreteam election" because it's every 6 months
Vote 14: (Postponed)
The coreteam has to confirm the suspension/exclusion for every decision (not only before the elections) : 13 green / 13 red
Postponed for later in the day
Remarks:
if the coreteam doesn't validate => escalade to the GA
we need to reformulate this proposition for the next GA
A: green :
B: red :
Remark the decision will supercede vote 13
Vote 15: accepted
Vote 16: accepted
Vote 17: B
A green :
B red : accepted
Vote 18: accepted
Idea from the the discussion :
motivation of the decision from the conflict resolution group/mediation team
2.3 Projecten - Projets
Remark : what's a project ? we will have to define this
Vote 19: A
A : rejected
B : accepted
Vote 20: A & B
Remark: if there is no coordination team, it's the coreteam that takes this role
A : accepted B: 15 green / 10 red -> accepted
Motie 3: Structuur - Motion 3: Structure
3.1 Coreteam - Coreteam
Vote 21: 13 green / 14 red --> postponed
a new proposal will be made based on the discussions prior to voting
So we will skip 3.2 and 3.3
3.2 Secretariaat - secrétariat
Vote 22: (postponed)
Vote 23: (postponed)
Vote 24: (postponed)
Vote 25: (postponed)
3.3 coördinatie-comite - comité de coordination
Vote 26: (postponed)
Vote 27: (postponed)
Vote 28: (postponed)
Vote 29: (postponed)
Vote 30: (postponed)
Vote 31: (postponed)
3.4 Squads - Squads
Remark : the squads concerned by vote 32-35 are defined afterwards
Vote on the general principle to delegate certain responsibilities of the coreteam to squads and to allow the coreteam to take back those
responsibilities (decision at the simple majority) -> accepted
Squads should be reworded "operational squads" in this context
Vote 32: B & C
A: accepted B: accepted
Vote 33: A & B
A:accepted B: accepted
Vote 34: accepted
3.5 Coaching-squad - L'escouade Coaching
Vote 35: accepted
3.6 Coordinatie-squad - L'escouade de coordination
Vote 36: accepted
Vote 37: rejected
7 green / more red
= Vote 38: accepted
3.7 Coreteam-squad - L'escouade Coreteam
Vote 39: not voted
This is inconsistent with previous decisions -> will not vote 39
Vote 40: accepted
3.8 Financien-squad - L'escouade Finance
Vote 41 : B accepted with a remark
Who approves the budget ? A green Coreteam : rejected
B red GA : accepted
Remarks : what will happen if the GA don't approve the budget ? -> need a proposal on that at next GA
Vote 42: accepted
3.9 Algemene Vergadering-squad - L'escouade AG
Vote 43: accepted
3.10 IT-squad - L'escouade IT
Vote 44: accepted
3.11 Pers-squad - L'escouade Presse
NB: not about opinion letters (in personal name), only press releases of the party
Question: what about local press?
Vote 45: accepted
3.12 Secretariaat-squad - L'escouade Secr�etariat
Question: shouldn't we make it possible for the coreteam to access the list of members by itself?
Vote 46: accepted
3.13 Wiki-squad - L'escouade Wiki
Vote 47: accepted
3.14 Naam - Nom
It's about finding a name for the "operational squads"
Vote 48: Operational Squad
Operational Squads (vs. "who cares" vs. "squads" vs. "organs")
3.15 Procedures - Procédures
Vote 49:
Issue with wording: motie van wantrouwen and motion de défiance instead of vertrouwen/confiance. It's about getting someone out.
Voted for simple majority (not special majority)
Vote 49' : Accepted
also applies to the coreteam -> accepted