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Total voters : 32
Total voters : 32


= Restults =
= Results =


== Motie 1 : Financiëen - Motion 1 : Finances ==
== Motie 1 : Financiëen - Motion 1 : Finances ==
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A : accepted
A : accepted
B: 15 green / 10 red -> accepted
B: 15 green / 10 red -> accepted
Motie 3: Structuur - Motion 3: Structure
 
3.1 Coreteam - Coreteam
== Motie 3: Structuur - Motion 3: Structure ==
Vote 21:  13 green / 14 red --> postponed
=== 3.1 Coreteam - Coreteam ===
==== Vote 21:  13 green / 14 red --> postponed ====
 
a new proposal will be made based on the discussions prior to voting
a new proposal will be made based on the discussions prior to voting
So we will skip 3.2 and 3.3
So we will skip 3.2 and 3.3
3.2 Secretariaat - secr�etariat
=== 3.2 Secretariaat - secr�etariat ===
Vote 22:
 
Vote 23:
==== Vote 22: (postponed) ====
Vote 24:
==== Vote 23: (postponed) ====
Vote 25:
==== Vote 24: (postponed) ====
3.3 coordinatie-comit�e - comit�e de coordination
====Vote 25: (postponed) ====
Vote 26:
=== 3.3 coordinatie-comit�e - comit�e de coordination ===
Vote 27:
==== Vote 26: (postponed) ====
Vote 28:
==== Vote 27: (postponed) ====
Vote 29:
==== Vote 28: (postponed) ====
Vote 30:
==== Vote 29: (postponed) ====
Vote 31:
==== Vote 30: (postponed) ====
3.4 Squads - Squads
==== Vote 31: (postponed) ====
=== 3.4 Squads - Squads ===
Remark : the squads concerned by vote 32-35 are defined afterwards
Remark : the squads concerned by vote 32-35 are defined afterwards
Vote on the general principle to delegate certain responsibilities of the coreteam to squads and to allow the coreteam to take back those responsibilities (decision at the simple majority) -> accepted
 
Vote on the general principle to delegate certain responsibilities of the coreteam to squads and to allow the coreteam to take back those  
 
responsibilities (decision at the simple majority) -> accepted
 
Squads should be reworded "operational squads" in this context
Squads should be reworded "operational squads" in this context
Vote 32:
 
==== Vote 32: B and C ====
A: accepted
A: accepted
B: accepted
B: accepted  
Vote 33:
==== Vote 33: ====
A:accepted
A:accepted
B: accepted
B: accepted
Vote 34: accepted
==== Vote 34: accepted ====
3.5 Coaching-squad - L'escouade Coaching
=== 3.5 Coaching-squad - L'escouade Coaching ===
Vote 35: accepted
==== Vote 35: accepted ====
3.6 Coordinatie-squad - L'escouade de coordination
=== 3.6 Coordinatie-squad - L'escouade de coordination ===
Vote 36: accepted
==== Vote 36: accepted ====
Vote 37: 7 green / more red -> rejected
==== Vote 37: 7 green / more red -> rejected ====
Vote 38: accepted
==== Vote 38: accepted ===
3.7 Coreteam-squad - L'escouade Coreteam
==== 3.7 Coreteam-squad - L'escouade Coreteam ====
==== Vote 39: not voted ====
This is inconsistent with previous decisions -> will not vote 39
This is inconsistent with previous decisions -> will not vote 39
Vote 39: not voted
==== Vote 40: accepted ====
Vote 40: accepted
=== 3.8 Financien-squad - L'escouade Finance ===
3.8 Financien-squad - L'escouade Finance
==== Vote 41' : Who approves the budget ? ====
Vote 41' : Who approves the budget ?
A green Coreteam : rejected
A green Coreteam : rejected
B red GA : accepted
B red GA : accepted
Remarks : what will happen if the GA don't approve the budget ? -> need a proposal on that at next GA
Remarks : what will happen if the GA don't approve the budget ? -> need a proposal on that at next GA
Vote 41: accepted (budget approved by the GA)
==== Vote 41: accepted (budget approved by the GA) ====
Vote 42: accepted
==== Vote 42: accepted ====
3.9 Algemene Vergadering-squad - L'escouade AG
=== 3.9 Algemene Vergadering-squad - L'escouade AG ===
Vote 43: accepted
==== Vote 43: accepted ====
3.10 IT-squad - L'escouade IT
=== 3.10 IT-squad - L'escouade IT ===
Vote 44: accepted
==== Vote 44: accepted ====
3.11 Pers-squad - L'escouade Presse
=== 3.11 Pers-squad - L'escouade Presse ===
 
NB: not about opinion letters (in personal name), only press releases of the party
NB: not about opinion letters (in personal name), only press releases of the party
Question: what about local press?
Question: what about local press?
Vote 45: accepted
 
3.12 Secretariaat-squad - L'escouade Secr�etariat
==== Vote 45: accepted ====
=== 3.12 Secretariaat-squad - L'escouade Secr�etariat ===
 
Question: shouldn't we make it possible for the coreteam to access the list of members by itself?
Question: shouldn't we make it possible for the coreteam to access the list of members by itself?
Vote 46: accepted
==== Vote 46: accepted ====
3.13 Wiki-squad - L'escouade Wiki
=== 3.13 Wiki-squad - L'escouade Wiki ===
Vote 47: accepted
==== Vote 47: accepted ====
3.14 Naam - Nom
 
=== 3.14 Naam - Nom ===
It's about finding a name for the "operational squads"
It's about finding a name for the "operational squads"
Vote 48:
==== Vote 48: ====
Remark: weird game made the decision
 
Operational Squads
Operational Squads (vs. "who cares" vs. "squads" vs. "organs")
(vs. "who cares" vs. "squads" vs. "organs")
 
3.15 Procedures - Proc�edures
=== 3.15 Procedures - Proc�edures ===
Vote 49:  
==== Vote 49: ====
Issue with wording: motie van wantrouwen and motion de défiance instead of vertrouwen/confiance. It's about getting someone out.
Issue with wording: motie van wantrouwen and motion de défiance instead of vertrouwen/confiance. It's about getting someone out.
Voted for simple majority (not special majority)
Voted for simple majority (not special majority)
Vote 49' : also apply to the coreteam -> accepted
Vote 49' : also apply to the coreteam -> accepted
Vote 50: accepted
==== Vote 50: accepted ====

Revision as of 07:56, 10 August 2014

Intro

We have been voting on the following document.

Total voters : 32

Results

Motie 1 : Financiëen - Motion 1 : Finances

1.1 Renumeratie van mandaten - Réemunéeration des mandats

Vote 1: 13 green / 14 red -> postponed

  • Discussions:

These number don"t mean anything, 22,5% have to be specified and we need a distinction between full-time and part-time mandates

a percentage of the national revenues should go towards the crews, in order to allocate a budget.

The underlying question is how strongly the elected people should be connected to the party (does one deal with his-her budget all alone,or is he-she getting it back from the party with help

full time job versus city councelors

maximum wage/minimum wage for elected people (put a cap to avoid people who come just for the money)

Budget of the party could be voted on the GAs so that we know what will happen to the money

more proposals will be made on a next GA

use crowd funding

should the elected people be paid than give some part to the party or give all their remuneration to the party that will give them back a "salary"

1.2 Cotisation des membres - Lidgeld

Vote 2: -> D accepted

2,5 euro/month (A or C): 4

1 euro/year (B or D): big majority

B:

D: big majority -> accepted

Motie 2: Conflicten oplossen - Motion 2: R�esolution des conflits

2.1 Moderatie - Moderation

Vote 3: accepted

Vote 4: accepted

if not the GA, it will be the squads managing the channels

2.2 Verzoenings- en tuchtcommissie - Commission de conciliation et de discipline

Vote 5: accepted

Remove "bestuur" from dutch version

Vote 6: accepted

Vote 7:

A: accepted

B (simple majority) : rejected de facto since we have choosen A

C (special majority) : idem

Remarks: What does entity mean ?

Person (green) : 14

Group (red) : 15

Entity is defined as "minimum 3 pirates" at the majority

Vote 8: accepted

Vote 9: 13 green / 9 red -> accepted

Remark: not majority of voters obtained + alot of abstention

The member of the coreteam have to be cautious when using this

Vote 10: accepted

Vote 11: accepted

Vote 12:

A : green : 13

B: red : 15 -> accepted

Vote 13: accepted

Remark: remove "coreteam election" because it's every 6 months

Vote 14:

The coreteam has to confirm the suspension/exclusion for every decision (not only before the elections) : 13 green / 13 red

Postponed for later in the day

Remarks:

if the coreteam doesn't validate => escalade to the GA

we need to reformulate this proposition for the next GA

A: green :

B: red :

Remark the decision will supercede vote 13

Vote 15: accepted

Vote 16: accepted

Vote 17:

A green :

B red : accepted

Vote 18: accepted

Idea from the the discussion :

motivation of the decision from the conflict resolution group/mediation team

2.3 Projecten - Projets

Remark : what's a project ? we will have to define this

Vote 19:

A : rejected

B : accepted

Vote 20:

Remark: if there is no coordination team, it's the coreteam that takes this role

A : accepted B: 15 green / 10 red -> accepted

Motie 3: Structuur - Motion 3: Structure

3.1 Coreteam - Coreteam

Vote 21: 13 green / 14 red --> postponed

a new proposal will be made based on the discussions prior to voting

So we will skip 3.2 and 3.3

3.2 Secretariaat - secr�etariat

Vote 22: (postponed)

Vote 23: (postponed)

Vote 24: (postponed)

Vote 25: (postponed)

3.3 co?ordinatie-comit�e - comit�e de coordination

Vote 26: (postponed)

Vote 27: (postponed)

Vote 28: (postponed)

Vote 29: (postponed)

Vote 30: (postponed)

Vote 31: (postponed)

3.4 Squads - Squads

Remark : the squads concerned by vote 32-35 are defined afterwards

Vote on the general principle to delegate certain responsibilities of the coreteam to squads and to allow the coreteam to take back those

responsibilities (decision at the simple majority) -> accepted

Squads should be reworded "operational squads" in this context

Vote 32: B and C

A: accepted B: accepted

Vote 33:

A:accepted B: accepted

Vote 34: accepted

3.5 Coaching-squad - L'escouade Coaching

Vote 35: accepted

3.6 Coordinatie-squad - L'escouade de coordination

Vote 36: accepted

Vote 37: 7 green / more red -> rejected

= Vote 38: accepted

3.7 Coreteam-squad - L'escouade Coreteam

Vote 39: not voted

This is inconsistent with previous decisions -> will not vote 39

Vote 40: accepted

3.8 Financi?en-squad - L'escouade Finance

Vote 41' : Who approves the budget ?

A green Coreteam : rejected

B red GA : accepted

Remarks : what will happen if the GA don't approve the budget ? -> need a proposal on that at next GA

Vote 41: accepted (budget approved by the GA)

Vote 42: accepted

3.9 Algemene Vergadering-squad - L'escouade AG

Vote 43: accepted

3.10 IT-squad - L'escouade IT

Vote 44: accepted

3.11 Pers-squad - L'escouade Presse

NB: not about opinion letters (in personal name), only press releases of the party

Question: what about local press?

Vote 45: accepted

3.12 Secretariaat-squad - L'escouade Secr�etariat

Question: shouldn't we make it possible for the coreteam to access the list of members by itself?

Vote 46: accepted

3.13 Wiki-squad - L'escouade Wiki

Vote 47: accepted

3.14 Naam - Nom

It's about finding a name for the "operational squads"

Vote 48:

Operational Squads (vs. "who cares" vs. "squads" vs. "organs")

3.15 Procedures - Proc�edures

Vote 49:

Issue with wording: motie van wantrouwen and motion de défiance instead of vertrouwen/confiance. It's about getting someone out.

Voted for simple majority (not special majority)

Vote 49' : also apply to the coreteam -> accepted

Vote 50: accepted