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=== Alexander ZENON ===
=== Alexander ZENON ===
AZE is one of the founder of http://www.democratie.nu/ a '' Now is an independent and politically non-aligned citizens' movement that promotes the introduction of the Binding Referendum on People's Initiative''" [R1]   
AZE is one of the founder of http://www.democratie.nu/ a '' Now is an independent and politically non-aligned citizens' movement that promotes the introduction of the Binding Referendum on People's Initiative''" '''[R1]'''  


AZE is working on an alternative to LiquidFeedback project: http://www.jegouverne.be (FR) or http://www.ikregeer.be (NL). He would like to invest his time as a citizen of Brussels cityand help the Pirate Party during the campaign. ABO and Jonas Degrave have talked with him in order to decide which tool will, the PP Belgium use in the future. Emails have been exchanged using the pp.be.democratie mailing list [R2]
AZE is working on an alternative to LiquidFeedback project: http://www.jegouverne.be (FR) or http://www.ikregeer.be (NL). He would like to invest his time as a citizen of Brussels cityand help the Pirate Party during the campaign. ABO and Jonas Degrave have talked with him in order to decide which tool will, the PP Belgium use in the future. Emails have been exchanged using the pp.be.democratie mailing list '''[R2]'''


[DECISION] ALL: The forum of AZE exists and can be used until the elections
'''[DECISION]''' ALL: The forum of AZE exists and can be used until the elections


=== Merel FABRE ===
=== Merel FABRE ===
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MFA should participate to the elections and be on the Schaerbeek' list. [INFO] She offers to help Brussels City team for the elections.
MFA should participate to the elections and be on the Schaerbeek' list. [INFO] She offers to help Brussels City team for the elections.


[INFO]: MBR: Brussels City’ group becomes more and more Dutch speaking and we shouldn’t “grab” the Dutch speaking persons from Schaerbeek. ACA: as discussed, MFA is willing to help our small team while following Schaerbeek' discussions.
'''[INFO]''': MBR: Brussels City’ group becomes more and more Dutch speaking and we shouldn’t “grab” the Dutch speaking persons from Schaerbeek. ACA: as discussed, MFA is willing to help our small team while following Schaerbeek' discussions.


=== Nicolas TSURU ===
=== Nicolas TSURU ===
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=== how far are we in the signatures? ===
=== how far are we in the signatures? ===
Details of the signatures are available here [R4] but we have 67 Signatures
Details of the signatures are available here '''[R4]''' but we have 67 Signatures


[DECISION] ALL: we agreed that we won't ask for signature from already elected politicians except if ithere is an absolute necessity
'''[DECISION]''' ALL: we agreed that we won't ask for signature from already elected politicians except if ithere is an absolute necessity


=== Contact with Brussels council ===
=== Contact with Brussels council ===
LCA went to administration but they weren't able to communicate in Flemish.  
LCA went to administration but they weren't able to communicate in Flemish.  


'''[DECISION]''': LCA and ABO will go together to the Brussels council to get used with administration and ensure that we don't miss read the documentation available on the public website [R5]
'''[DECISION]''': LCA and ABO will go together to the Brussels council to get used with administration and ensure that we don't miss read the documentation available on the public website '''[R5]'''


=== becoming a member of PP ===
=== becoming a member of PP ===
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==Paperwork ==
==Paperwork ==
=== Elections ===
TBI will check if anyone can be candidate, independently of the date he became resident of a municipality. He has read that people can't participate to the elections if they were not resident of a municipality before the 15 April 2012. In that case, TBI might not be a candidate. '''[A019]'''
'''[DECISON]''' LCA will call HNA to know whether he still want to participate to the elections '''[A020]''' If he doesn't answer to the requests we will have to decide whether we input him in the candidate' list
'''[INFO]''' MBR remembers us that the parity male/female is a MUST. Today we have too many men vs. women. We will have to decide which man will not take part of the elections


=== business cards ===
=== business cards ===
We could use Vista Print? [R7]
We could use Vista Print? '''[R7]'''
* How many of cards we need per person?
* How many of cards we need per person? we didn't agree yet. we will wait after the availability of the design and the @pirateparty.be addresses
* Each member of the team should share the personal data he/she is willing to input into the business card
 
** First name
 
** Last name
= Financing - Bank account =
** Private phone number
LCA asked us whether we should create a bank account for Brussels City municipality. ABO proposes to do not start this process as we should also start one 'association de fait' or 'Feitelijke vereniging'
** email address
** Personal Blog
** Brussels City blog [R8]
** Picture


-stickers
'''[DECISION]''' ALL: We agreed to do not create a bank account and propose to the donor to indicate that they donate money to the Brussels City crew while paying on the Pirate Party bank account
-flyers
work on the text and go to Adrian and work on the design.
ACTION: by next week
MBR propose to work on a plan and distribute the flyers into the postboxes. ACTION: MBR will propose a list of streets that each of us should visit


-Agenda
= Activities =
ACTION: ALL: List of all the public manifestations that we want to participate to. Interesting for 1000 Brussels. (e.g. theater nomade)


-posters
== weekly picnic-debate event on public squares ==


LCA: Purpose: to organise in public spaces every afternoon a meeting and have an open discussion.


'''[DECISION]''' first Pic-nic debate is organised from 4PM to 6PM on Saturday 18 August


LCA will propose some subjects to discuss about '''[A020]'''


ABO will insert the event onto the WordPress blog '''[A021]'''


ABO will insert the event onto the Facebook group '''[A022]'''
==== Private data that people we could put on the business card ====
Each member of the team should share the personal data he/she is willing to input into the business card
* First name
* Last name
* Private phone number
* email address '''[A013]'''
* Personal Blog
* Brussels City blog '''[R8]'''
* Picture
=== Stickers ===
Stickers are available. see email from Paul Bossut (sent 1 Aug 2012)
=== Flyers ===
LCA: is working on the text, then she will meet Adrian and work on the design '''[A012]'''
MBR propose to work on a plan and distribute the flyers into the postboxes. '''[A015]'''
=== Agenda: Flyers Distribution, meet the citizens ===
MFA will send us a list '''[A016]''' of all the public manifestations that we could participate to organised within 1000 Brussels. (e.g. theater nomade)
=== Posters ===
we didn't discuss the topic
= Media =
== pictures ==
DCH will ask to a photographer when we could take pictures of the team '''[A017]'''
== video ==
== music ==
TBI tolds us that the song he wanted us to use wouldn't be as it doesn't fit perfectly to our needs/values. He will send us the song by email. '''[A18]'''
= Program =
LQFB: we didn't discuss the topic
= Blog/Site/FB =
We should have photos, about us '''[A017]''' + upcoming events '''[A016]'''
ABO will create a group on FB '''[A019]'''. Everyone is free to add new posts to it
= Meetings organisation =
== responsibilities and deadlines ==
'''[DECISION]''' Everyone proposes the agenda for the next meeting
'''[DECISION]''' one moderator will be chosen at the beginning of each meeting
'''[DECISION]''' Each meeting will have one break
= smoking and drinking =
'''[INFO]''' We haven't discussed the topic




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| R1 || http://www.democratie.nu/index.php/en/welkom-bij-democratienu/wie-zijn-we
| R1 || http://www.democratie.nu/index.php/en/welkom-bij-democratienu/wie-zijn-we
|-
|-
| R2 || http://www.pirateparty.be/wiki/index.php/DemocracySquad#Mailing_list
| R2 || [[Democracy#Mailing_list|DemocracySquad]]
|-
|-
| R3 || http://www.vub.ac.be/
| R3 || http://www.vub.ac.be/
|-  
|-  
| R4 || http://www.pirateparty.be/wiki/index.php/Communal_elections_2012/Brussels
| R4 || [[Communal_elections_2012/Brussels]]
|-  
|-  
| R5 || http://bruxelleselections2012.irisnet.be/ or http://brusselverkiezingen2012.irisnet.be/
| R5 || http://bruxelleselections2012.irisnet.be/ or http://brusselverkiezingen2012.irisnet.be/
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{| class="wikitable"
{| class="wikitable"
|-
|-
! Action ID !! Description || Priority || Creation date yy/mm/dd || Expected end date || Actual End date || Responsible(s)
! Action ID !! Description || Prerequisite || Creation date yy/mm/dd || Expected end date || Actual End date || Responsible(s)
|-
|-
| 001 || BLOG: to describe ourselves on the blog. Add Photo + presentation  || 004 || 2012-07-31 || 2012-08-07 || Not done yet || LCA, TBI, ABO, MBR, DCH, HNA
| 001 || BLOG: to describe ourselves on the blog. Add Photo + presentation  || 004 || 2012-07-31 || 2012-08-07 || Not done yet || LCA, TBI, ABO, MBR, DCH, HNA
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|-
|-
| 014 || BUSINESS CARDS: ABO: create a page where people choose which data to put on the business card || None || Tue 2012-08-07 || Sun 2012-08-12 || Not done yet || ABO
| 014 || BUSINESS CARDS: ABO: create a page where people choose which data to put on the business card || None || Tue 2012-08-07 || Sun 2012-08-12 || Not done yet || ABO
|-
| 015 || FLYERS DISTRIBUTION: MBR propose to work on a plan and distribute the flyers into the postboxes. Propose a list of streets that each of us should visit || None || Tue 2012-08-07 || Sun 2012-08-19 || Not done yet || MBR
|-
| 016 || FLYERS DISTRIBUTION: Create a list of all the public manifestations that we could participate to organised within 1000 Brussels. See [[File:Upcoming events 2012.xls]] || None || Tue 2012-08-07 || Sun 2012-08-12 || Wed 2012-08-08  || MFA
|-
| 017 || CREW' PICTURES: DCH will ask to a photographer when we could take pictures of the team. Update: we are shooting Fri 2012-08-17] || None || Tue 2012-08-07 || Sun 2012-08-12 || Wed 2012-08-08  || DCH
|-
| 018 || SONG: TBI will send the song to the Crew || None || Tue 2012-08-07 || Sun 2012-08-12 || Not done yet  ||TBI
|-
| 019 || CANDIDATURE ELIGIBILITY: TBI will check if he can be a candidate if he is resident after 15 April 2012 of Brussels' municipality || None || Tue 2012-08-07 || Sun 2012-08-12 || Not done yet  ||TBI
|-
| 020 || PIC-NIC DEBATE: LCA will propose some subjects to discuss about || None || Tue 2012-08-07 || Sun 2012-08-12 || Not done yet  || LCA
|-
| 021 || PIC-NIC DEBATE: ABO will insert the event onto the WordPress blog || None || Tue 2012-08-07 || Sun 2012-08-12 || Not done yet  ||ABO
|-
| 022 || PIC-NIC DEBATE: ABO will insert the event onto the Facebook group. Update: here is the link http://www.facebook.com/groups/406953462696243/ || None || Tue 2012-08-07 || Wed 2012-08-08 || Not done yet  || ABO
|}
|}


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Date Tue 7 August 2012
Time 7:30pm
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Tue 2012-08-07 meeting / Réunion / Vergadering

Some rules

  1. People’s names followed by an asterisk are responsible for at least one action.
  2. Each of the topics below is of one of the following types: for INFO (no responsible, no due date), DECISION (no responsible, no due date) or for ACTION (indicated by the initials and the date).


Metadata

  • Location: Line' place
  • Topic: Elections, Misc
  • Start - end: 19:30 - 22:30 - but start wasn't clear, we started at 20:30 :-(


  • Next meeting
    • date: Thu 2012-08-16 from 20:00
    • place: Line' place - close to the stock market (Beurs - Bourse station)
Name Abbr Function Presence
Abdelkrim BOUJRAF ABO TBD YES
Alexander ZENON AZE TBD EXCUSED
Delphine CHEVALIER DCH TBD YES
Erwin LEYMAN ELE TDB YES
Hakim NAJI HNA TBD EXCUSED
Line CALLEBAUT LCA General Secratary Pirate Party Belgium - Captain 1000 Brussels YES
Maël BRUNET MBR TBD YES
Merel FABRE MFA TBD YES
Nicolas TSURU NTS TBD EXCUSED
Toon BIJNENS TBI TBD YES


Minutes

We welcome 3 new faces

The crew members welcome those three fresh pirates

Alexander ZENON

AZE is one of the founder of http://www.democratie.nu/ a Now is an independent and politically non-aligned citizens' movement that promotes the introduction of the Binding Referendum on People's Initiative" [R1]

AZE is working on an alternative to LiquidFeedback project: http://www.jegouverne.be (FR) or http://www.ikregeer.be (NL). He would like to invest his time as a citizen of Brussels cityand help the Pirate Party during the campaign. ABO and Jonas Degrave have talked with him in order to decide which tool will, the PP Belgium use in the future. Emails have been exchanged using the pp.be.democratie mailing list [R2]

[DECISION] ALL: The forum of AZE exists and can be used until the elections

Merel FABRE

MFA lives in Schaarbeek. He works as secretary/webmaster at VUB [R3]. She is an expert in Drupal. She is willing to setup, host and maintain the Brussels City website. MFA should participate to the elections and be on the Schaerbeek' list. [INFO] She offers to help Brussels City team for the elections.

[INFO]: MBR: Brussels City’ group becomes more and more Dutch speaking and we shouldn’t “grab” the Dutch speaking persons from Schaerbeek. ACA: as discussed, MFA is willing to help our small team while following Schaerbeek' discussions.

Nicolas TSURU

NTS lives in Laken and he is interested in our list (and participation).

Erwin Leyman (not new)

ELE organizes each year a dinner with poor people. This year he will try to get funded by private and/or public administration. In the past, he invested his time and money to organise the event.

Elections participation

how far are we in the signatures?

Details of the signatures are available here [R4] but we have 67 Signatures

[DECISION] ALL: we agreed that we won't ask for signature from already elected politicians except if ithere is an absolute necessity

Contact with Brussels council

LCA went to administration but they weren't able to communicate in Flemish.

[DECISION]: LCA and ABO will go together to the Brussels council to get used with administration and ensure that we don't miss read the documentation available on the public website [R5]

becoming a member of PP

[INFO] Crew members should at least send 1 EUR to the party and become an official member [R6]


Paperwork

Elections

TBI will check if anyone can be candidate, independently of the date he became resident of a municipality. He has read that people can't participate to the elections if they were not resident of a municipality before the 15 April 2012. In that case, TBI might not be a candidate. [A019]

[DECISON] LCA will call HNA to know whether he still want to participate to the elections [A020] If he doesn't answer to the requests we will have to decide whether we input him in the candidate' list

[INFO] MBR remembers us that the parity male/female is a MUST. Today we have too many men vs. women. We will have to decide which man will not take part of the elections


business cards

We could use Vista Print? [R7]

  • How many of cards we need per person? we didn't agree yet. we will wait after the availability of the design and the @pirateparty.be addresses


Financing - Bank account

LCA asked us whether we should create a bank account for Brussels City municipality. ABO proposes to do not start this process as we should also start one 'association de fait' or 'Feitelijke vereniging'

[DECISION] ALL: We agreed to do not create a bank account and propose to the donor to indicate that they donate money to the Brussels City crew while paying on the Pirate Party bank account

Activities

weekly picnic-debate event on public squares

LCA: Purpose: to organise in public spaces every afternoon a meeting and have an open discussion.

[DECISION] first Pic-nic debate is organised from 4PM to 6PM on Saturday 18 August

LCA will propose some subjects to discuss about [A020]

ABO will insert the event onto the WordPress blog [A021]

ABO will insert the event onto the Facebook group [A022]

Private data that people we could put on the business card

Each member of the team should share the personal data he/she is willing to input into the business card

  • First name
  • Last name
  • Private phone number
  • email address [A013]
  • Personal Blog
  • Brussels City blog [R8]
  • Picture

Stickers

Stickers are available. see email from Paul Bossut (sent 1 Aug 2012)

Flyers

LCA: is working on the text, then she will meet Adrian and work on the design [A012]

MBR propose to work on a plan and distribute the flyers into the postboxes. [A015]

Agenda: Flyers Distribution, meet the citizens

MFA will send us a list [A016] of all the public manifestations that we could participate to organised within 1000 Brussels. (e.g. theater nomade)

Posters

we didn't discuss the topic

Media

pictures

DCH will ask to a photographer when we could take pictures of the team [A017]

video

music

TBI tolds us that the song he wanted us to use wouldn't be as it doesn't fit perfectly to our needs/values. He will send us the song by email. [A18]


Program

LQFB: we didn't discuss the topic

Blog/Site/FB

We should have photos, about us [A017] + upcoming events [A016] ABO will create a group on FB [A019]. Everyone is free to add new posts to it

Meetings organisation

responsibilities and deadlines

[DECISION] Everyone proposes the agenda for the next meeting [DECISION] one moderator will be chosen at the beginning of each meeting [DECISION] Each meeting will have one break

smoking and drinking

[INFO] We haven't discussed the topic


Quotes

  • Politics should be adjusted to what people want and not pushed upon like the fat liver ('foie gras', 'Ganzenlever’)

References

ID References
R1 http://www.democratie.nu/index.php/en/welkom-bij-democratienu/wie-zijn-we
R2 DemocracySquad
R3 http://www.vub.ac.be/
R4 Communal_elections_2012/Brussels
R5 http://bruxelleselections2012.irisnet.be/ or http://brusselverkiezingen2012.irisnet.be/
R6 http://pirateparty.be/?page_id=6&lang=en
R7 http://www.vistaprint.be/
R8 http://pp1000brussels.wordpress.com


Actions

Action ID Description Prerequisite Creation date yy/mm/dd Expected end date Actual End date Responsible(s)
001 BLOG: to describe ourselves on the blog. Add Photo + presentation 004 2012-07-31 2012-08-07 Not done yet LCA, TBI, ABO, MBR, DCH, HNA
002 LCA will share the name of her blog to ABO. The blog will be more personal None 2012-07-31 2012-08-07 Not done yet LCA
003 ABO creates a blog for LCA based on a selected name 002 2012-07-31 2012-08-07 Not done yet ABO
004 BLOG: Toon will send info about what to put on the website None 2012-07-31 2012-08-07 Not done yet TBI
005 ELECTIONS: To create a wiki page containing the program None 2012-07-31 2012-08-07 Not done yet ABO
006 ELECTIONS: To create a wiki page containing the program None 2012-07-31 2012-08-07 Not done yet ABO
007 LiquidFeedback: We need to learn the tool None 2012-07-31 undefined yet Not done yet ALL
008 MKT: Toon will propose a theme music for the campaign None 2012-07-31 2012-08-07 Not done yet TBI
009 SQUAD: TBI proposes to create a SQUAD dealing with fund raising. ABO might help him - to be discussed None 2012-07-31 2012-08-07 Not done yet TBI
010 EMAIL: LCA will ask to Jonas to create an email address pp1000brussels@pirateparty.be None 2012-07-31 2012-08-07 Not done yet   LCA
011 TWITTER: ABO will create an account based on pp1000brussels@pirateparty.be email address 010 2012-07-31 2012-08-07 Not done yet   ABO
012 BUSINESS CARDS DESIGN: LCA will contact Adrian to ask her to design teh Biz cards None Tue 2012-08-07 Sun 2012-08-12 Not done yet LCA
013 EMAIL: ABO: ask to Jonas to create the pirate party email address . Update: Sat 2012-08-11 has asked to Jonas None Tue 2012-08-07 Sun 2012-08-12 Not done yet ABO
014 BUSINESS CARDS: ABO: create a page where people choose which data to put on the business card None Tue 2012-08-07 Sun 2012-08-12 Not done yet ABO
015 FLYERS DISTRIBUTION: MBR propose to work on a plan and distribute the flyers into the postboxes. Propose a list of streets that each of us should visit None Tue 2012-08-07 Sun 2012-08-19 Not done yet MBR
016 FLYERS DISTRIBUTION: Create a list of all the public manifestations that we could participate to organised within 1000 Brussels. See File:Upcoming events 2012.xls None Tue 2012-08-07 Sun 2012-08-12 Wed 2012-08-08 MFA
017 CREW' PICTURES: DCH will ask to a photographer when we could take pictures of the team. Update: we are shooting Fri 2012-08-17] None Tue 2012-08-07 Sun 2012-08-12 Wed 2012-08-08 DCH
018 SONG: TBI will send the song to the Crew None Tue 2012-08-07 Sun 2012-08-12 Not done yet TBI
019 CANDIDATURE ELIGIBILITY: TBI will check if he can be a candidate if he is resident after 15 April 2012 of Brussels' municipality None Tue 2012-08-07 Sun 2012-08-12 Not done yet TBI
020 PIC-NIC DEBATE: LCA will propose some subjects to discuss about None Tue 2012-08-07 Sun 2012-08-12 Not done yet LCA
021 PIC-NIC DEBATE: ABO will insert the event onto the WordPress blog None Tue 2012-08-07 Sun 2012-08-12 Not done yet ABO
022 PIC-NIC DEBATE: ABO will insert the event onto the Facebook group. Update: here is the link http://www.facebook.com/groups/406953462696243/ None Tue 2012-08-07 Wed 2012-08-08 Not done yet ABO


Acronyms

Acronyms Description
MKT Marketing
Priorities L (Low), M (Medium), H (High)

Annex

Original invitation to the meeting

1/ We welcome 3 new faces. 
Alex Zenon a travailler sur une systeme de lqfb (un alternative) et veux, comme habitant de bruxelles ville, l'impliquer pour notre campagne.
Merel Fabre woont in Schaarbeek en wil zich misschien ook kandidaat stellen op die lijst. Zij biedt ons haar medewerking aan (indien mogelijk).
Nicolas Tsuru is from Laken and interested in our list (and participation) we welcome this fresh pirate.

2/Elections participation
-how far are we in the signatures
-contact with council Brussels
-becoming a member of PP

3/Paperwork
-business cards
-stickers
-flyers
-posters

4/Media
-pictures
-video
-music

5/Program
-LQFB

6/ Blog/Site/FB ?

7/Financing
-account?

8/Activities
-weekly picnic-debate event on public squares
-agenda with all public activities
(manager agenda, FB)

9/Who does what?
responsabities and deadlines

10/smoking and drinking.
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