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Questions:  
 
Questions:  
1- Is it a pirate event or not?
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* 1- Is it a pirate event or not?
  
- Two kinds of approach for events like this:
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** Two kinds of approach for events like this:
-- 'these are subject we as pirates are interested in, and that's why we invited authorities'
+
*** 'these are subject we as pirates are interested in, and that's why we invited authorities'
-- these speakers are pirates and they speak in our name  
+
*** these speakers are pirates and they speak in our name  
 
not all three speakers are 'official pirates', so we chose first approach  
 
not all three speakers are 'official pirates', so we chose first approach  
  
- who is organizing and paying?
+
** who is organizing and paying?
-- financial account of Pirate Party Belgium
+
*** financial account of Pirate Party Belgium
-- organization by P42 (vzw/asbl linked to Brussels pirate crew)
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*** organization by P42 (vzw/asbl linked to Brussels pirate crew)
- who is our public?
+
** who is our public?
-- pirates and non-pirates
+
*** pirates and non-pirates
  
2- How do we fund the event?
+
* 2- How do we fund the event?
  
- ask people to pay an entrance fee (idea not supported)
+
** ask people to pay an entrance fee (idea not supported)
- put a donation box !!!
+
** put a donation box !!!
- sell things? pins or buttons?
+
** sell things? pins or buttons?
- we want to keep it simple
+
** we want to keep it simple
  
if speakers want to sell books:
+
** if speakers want to sell books:
- they announce it and organize it themselves
+
*** they announce it and organize it themselves
  
3- How do we promote the event?
+
* 3- How do we promote the event?
  
- boost the event by paying on Facebook:  
+
** boost the event by paying on Facebook:  
-- the host of the event (Pirate Party Belgium) can boost it
+
*** the host of the event (Pirate Party Belgium) can boost it
-- ask supporters to boost it (Promote Event)
+
*** ask supporters to boost it (Promote Event)
-- visibility is very low when you don't pay: Facebook is playing trics
+
*** visibility is very low when you don't pay: Facebook is playing trics
- sharing event on Facebook pages related to basic income (everyone can do this individually)  
+
** sharing event on Facebook pages related to basic income (everyone can do this individually)  
- spread it through event websites (mention: 'sponsored by Pirate Party Belgium' instead of 'organized by PP Be)
+
** spread it through event websites (mention: 'sponsored by Pirate Party Belgium' instead of 'organized by PP Be)
-- Politics.be, basisinkomen.be, Oikos, ...
+
*** Politics.be, basisinkomen.be, Oikos, ...
- Twitter? what about the pirate Twitter accounts?
+
** Twitter? what about the pirate Twitter accounts?
- flyers?  
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** flyers?  
-- graphic design? (brother of Danny!)
+
*** graphic design? (brother of Danny!)
-- flyer in pdf: digital flyers to spread on the internet, people can print it  
+
*** flyer in pdf: digital flyers to spread on the internet, people can print it  
-- paper prints for universities, student bars, ...
+
*** paper prints for universities, student bars, ...
  
4- Do we stream or film the event?
+
* 4- Do we stream or film the event?
  
- no live streaming, can easily go wrong
+
** no live streaming, can easily go wrong
- record and make a promotion film for social media??
+
** record and make a promotion film for social media??
-- we need:  
+
*** we need:  
--- cameraman and technical crew
+
**** cameraman and technical crew
--- someone for montage
+
**** someone for montage
--- material: good camera + statief  
+
**** material: good camera + statief  
  
5- How do we welcome new people and keep in touch?
+
* 5- How do we welcome new people and keep in touch?
  
- information about pirates: flyers
+
** information about pirates: flyers
- mailing lists: gather mail adresses on paper !!!
+
** mailing lists: gather mail adresses on paper !!!
-- note on mailing lists:
+
*** note on mailing lists:
--- can be used to send invitation for the event!!
+
**** can be used to send invitation for the event!!
--- mailing lists should be cleaned up
+
**** mailing lists should be cleaned up
--- huge work: there is no collection of all addresses in one place, there are many different mailinglists and in there you have all the different addresses
+
**** huge work: there is no collection of all addresses in one place, there are many different mailinglists and in there you have all the different addresses
--- we have to get it straight before we start using it again: bad impression
+
**** we have to get it straight before we start using it again: bad impression
--- avoid massive spam
+
**** avoid massive spam
  
 
'''TO DO LIST !!!!!'''
 
'''TO DO LIST !!!!!'''
- start marketing and promotion: share the event through Twitter and Facebook (everyone)
+
* start marketing and promotion: share the event through Twitter and Facebook (everyone)
- send event to specialised event websites
+
* send event to specialised event websites
- cleaning up mailing lists? (huge work, will be topic of GA)
+
* cleaning up mailing lists? (huge work, will be topic of GA)
- camera and staief (Pascal and Toon)
+
* camera and staief (Pascal and Toon)
- digital registration form (EventBright?) 'come early, full is full'
+
* digital registration form (EventBright?) 'come early, full is full'
- digital flyer (brother Danny)
+
* digital flyer (brother Danny)
  
 
=== Pad ===
 
=== Pad ===

Revision as of 16:12, 26 September 2015

Pirate Lab in Mons - September 26th, 2015

On Saturday September 26th, 2015 at Café Europa, Mons

Open at 12am, Lab starts at 1pm.

Topics

  • 1) General Assembly
  • 2) Manifesto
  • 3) Symposium

Report

1) GENERAL ASSEMBLY:

  • end of January/mid February in Gent
  • crew Gent is looking for a place to do it (Tuin of Eden)
  • topics and content: via Loomio 'Pirate Open Assembly'
    • membership administration and welcoming
    • IT and infrastructure: who is maintaining the site? what about mailing lists?
    • general internal workings: structures and how they do relate

2) MANIFESTO

  • difference between program and manifesto:
    • manifesto offers a vision, a dream
    • program offers details
  • three strategies:
    • 1- group/common manifesto = one text for all of us:
      • better for the political party
      • link with tech pirates?
      • good for the outer world, to convince people who don't know the pirates yet
      • singular, clear, convincing
      • difficult to make one common text, process will be messy
      • we have to find a way to provide a text like that
      • Toon and Damiens are working on a singular text: working on technical solution for 'how can we write that manifesto and make it democratically sustained (with ammendments and way to support them) > will take time!!
      • Vincent: how to merge different texts > http://emerge.shoutwiki.com
    • 2- compilation of individual manifesto's:
      • better for the movement
      • link with social/relational pirates?
      • a bit messy, not consistent for the outer world
      • good for the internal group: everyone gives input
      • also possible for groups and crews to write their own manifesto
      • put all the manifesto's in a word cloud > see which topics are huge, and which ones are small
    • 3- combination of both: the are compatible
      • make sure that both groups are represented (relational and tech)
      • there is a spectrum with black and white, but also grey: there is much more than social pirates and tech pirates (simplification), we have to focus on the common
      • both approaches can be combined: we can start with the individual manifesto's, and keep working on the tool for the central one
      • make a questionnary as a guidline for writing: why are you a pirate?

TO DO LIST !!!!!

  • 1- motivate people to write an individual manifesto (wait a little bit for the questionnary)
  • 2- make a questionnary: gather input for the common manifesto (Toon, Danny, Pascal, Jonas, Josse, Tim) > Toon is taking initiative on the Manifesto Working Group on Facebook
  • 3- tool to make a common manifesto, we have the input already from the questionnary (Toon and Damiens)

3) SYMPOSIUM

Questions:

  • 1- Is it a pirate event or not?
    • Two kinds of approach for events like this:
      • 'these are subject we as pirates are interested in, and that's why we invited authorities'
      • these speakers are pirates and they speak in our name

not all three speakers are 'official pirates', so we chose first approach

    • who is organizing and paying?
      • financial account of Pirate Party Belgium
      • organization by P42 (vzw/asbl linked to Brussels pirate crew)
    • who is our public?
      • pirates and non-pirates
  • 2- How do we fund the event?
    • ask people to pay an entrance fee (idea not supported)
    • put a donation box !!!
    • sell things? pins or buttons?
    • we want to keep it simple
    • if speakers want to sell books:
      • they announce it and organize it themselves
  • 3- How do we promote the event?
    • boost the event by paying on Facebook:
      • the host of the event (Pirate Party Belgium) can boost it
      • ask supporters to boost it (Promote Event)
      • visibility is very low when you don't pay: Facebook is playing trics
    • sharing event on Facebook pages related to basic income (everyone can do this individually)
    • spread it through event websites (mention: 'sponsored by Pirate Party Belgium' instead of 'organized by PP Be)
      • Politics.be, basisinkomen.be, Oikos, ...
    • Twitter? what about the pirate Twitter accounts?
    • flyers?
      • graphic design? (brother of Danny!)
      • flyer in pdf: digital flyers to spread on the internet, people can print it
      • paper prints for universities, student bars, ...
  • 4- Do we stream or film the event?
    • no live streaming, can easily go wrong
    • record and make a promotion film for social media??
      • we need:
        • cameraman and technical crew
        • someone for montage
        • material: good camera + statief
  • 5- How do we welcome new people and keep in touch?
    • information about pirates: flyers
    • mailing lists: gather mail adresses on paper !!!
      • note on mailing lists:
        • can be used to send invitation for the event!!
        • mailing lists should be cleaned up
        • huge work: there is no collection of all addresses in one place, there are many different mailinglists and in there you have all the different addresses
        • we have to get it straight before we start using it again: bad impression
        • avoid massive spam

TO DO LIST !!!!!

  • start marketing and promotion: share the event through Twitter and Facebook (everyone)
  • send event to specialised event websites
  • cleaning up mailing lists? (huge work, will be topic of GA)
  • camera and staief (Pascal and Toon)
  • digital registration form (EventBright?) 'come early, full is full'
  • digital flyer (brother Danny)

Pad

direct link to the pad