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=== Report ===
 
=== Report ===
 +
 +
1) GENERAL ASSEMBLY: end of January/mid February in Gent
 +
 +
- crew Gent is looking for a place to do it (Tuin of Eden)
 +
- topics and content: via Loomio 'Pirate Open Assembly'
 +
-- membership administration and welcoming
 +
-- IT and infrastructure: who is maintaining the site? what about mailing lists?
 +
-- general internal workings: structures and how they do relate
 +
 +
2) MANIFESTO
 +
 +
difference between program and manifesto:
 +
- manifesto offers a vision, a dream
 +
- program offers details
 +
 +
three strategies:
 +
1- group/common manifesto = one text for all of us:
 +
-- better for the political party
 +
-- link with tech pirates?
 +
-- good for the outer world, to convince people who don't know the pirates yet
 +
-- singular, clear, convincing
 +
-- difficult to make one common text, process will be messy
 +
-- we have to find a way to provide a text like that
 +
-- Toon and Damiens are working on a singular text: working on technical solution for 'how can we write that manifesto and make it democratically sustained (with ammendments and way to support them) > will take time!!
 +
-- Vincent: how to merge different texts > http://emerge.shoutwiki.com
 +
 +
2- compilation of individual manifesto's:
 +
-- better for the movement
 +
-- link with social/relational pirates?
 +
-- a bit messy, not consistent for the outer world
 +
-- good for the internal group: everyone gives input
 +
-- also possible for groups and crews to write their own manifesto
 +
-- put all the manifesto's in a word cloud > see which topics are huge, and which ones are small
 +
 +
3- combination of both: the are compatible
 +
-- make sure that both groups are represented (relational and tech)
 +
-- there is a spectrum with black and white, but also grey: there is much more than social pirates and tech pirates (simplification), we have to focus on the common
 +
-- both approaches can be combined: we can start with the individual manifesto's, and keep working on the tool for the central one
 +
-- make a questionnary as a guidline for writing: why are you a pirate?
 +
 +
TO DO LIST !!!!!
 +
1-- motivate people to write an individual manifesto (wait a little bit for the questionnary)
 +
2-- make a questionnary: gather input for the common manifesto (Toon, Danny, Pascal, Jonas, Josse, Tim) > Toon is taking initiative on the Manifesto Working Group on Facebook
 +
3-- tool to make a common manifesto, we have the input already from the questionnary (Toon and Damiens)
 +
 +
3) SYMPOSIUM
 +
 +
Questions:
 +
1- Is it a pirate event or not?
 +
 +
- Two kinds of approach for events like this:
 +
-- 'these are subject we as pirates are interested in, and that's why we invited authorities'
 +
-- these speakers are pirates and they speak in our name
 +
not all three speakers are 'official pirates', so we chose first approach
 +
 +
- who is organizing and paying?
 +
-- financial account of Pirate Party Belgium
 +
-- organization by P42 (vzw/asbl linked to Brussels pirate crew)
 +
- who is our public?
 +
-- pirates and non-pirates
 +
 +
2- How do we fund the event?
 +
 +
- ask people to pay an entrance fee (idea not supported)
 +
- put a donation box !!!
 +
- sell things? pins or buttons?
 +
- we want to keep it simple
 +
 +
if speakers want to sell books:
 +
- they announce it and organize it themselves
 +
 +
3- How do we promote the event?
 +
 +
- boost the event by paying on Facebook:
 +
-- the host of the event (Pirate Party Belgium) can boost it
 +
-- ask supporters to boost it (Promote Event)
 +
-- visibility is very low when you don't pay: Facebook is playing trics
 +
- sharing event on Facebook pages related to basic income (everyone can do this individually)
 +
- spread it through event websites (mention: 'sponsored by Pirate Party Belgium' instead of 'organized by PP Be)
 +
-- Politics.be, basisinkomen.be, Oikos, ...
 +
- Twitter? what about the pirate Twitter accounts?
 +
- flyers?
 +
-- graphic design? (brother of Danny!)
 +
-- flyer in pdf: digital flyers to spread on the internet, people can print it
 +
-- paper prints for universities, student bars, ...
 +
 +
4- Do we stream or film the event?
 +
 +
- no live streaming, can easily go wrong
 +
- record and make a promotion film for social media??
 +
-- we need:
 +
--- cameraman and technical crew
 +
--- someone for montage
 +
--- material: good camera + statief
 +
 +
5- How do we welcome new people and keep in touch?
 +
 +
- information about pirates: flyers
 +
- mailing lists: gather mail adresses on paper !!!
 +
-- note on mailing lists:
 +
--- can be used to send invitation for the event!!
 +
--- mailing lists should be cleaned up
 +
--- huge work: there is no collection of all addresses in one place, there are many different mailinglists and in there you have all the different addresses
 +
--- we have to get it straight before we start using it again: bad impression
 +
--- avoid massive spam
 +
 +
TO DO LIST !!!!!
 +
- start marketing and promotion: share the event through Twitter and Facebook (everyone)
 +
- send event to specialised event websites
 +
- cleaning up mailing lists? (huge work, will be topic of GA)
 +
- camera and staief (Pascal and Toon)
 +
- digital registration form (EventBright?) 'come early, full is full'
 +
- digital flyer (brother Danny)
  
 
=== Pad ===
 
=== Pad ===

Revision as of 17:04, 26 September 2015

Pirate Lab in Mons - September 26th, 2015

On Saturday September 26th, 2015 at Café Europa, Mons

Open at 12am, Lab starts at 1pm.

Topics

  • 1) General Assembly
  • 2) Manifesto
  • 3) Symposium

Report

1) GENERAL ASSEMBLY: end of January/mid February in Gent

- crew Gent is looking for a place to do it (Tuin of Eden) - topics and content: via Loomio 'Pirate Open Assembly' -- membership administration and welcoming -- IT and infrastructure: who is maintaining the site? what about mailing lists? -- general internal workings: structures and how they do relate

2) MANIFESTO

difference between program and manifesto: - manifesto offers a vision, a dream - program offers details

three strategies: 1- group/common manifesto = one text for all of us: -- better for the political party -- link with tech pirates? -- good for the outer world, to convince people who don't know the pirates yet -- singular, clear, convincing -- difficult to make one common text, process will be messy -- we have to find a way to provide a text like that -- Toon and Damiens are working on a singular text: working on technical solution for 'how can we write that manifesto and make it democratically sustained (with ammendments and way to support them) > will take time!! -- Vincent: how to merge different texts > http://emerge.shoutwiki.com

2- compilation of individual manifesto's: -- better for the movement -- link with social/relational pirates? -- a bit messy, not consistent for the outer world -- good for the internal group: everyone gives input -- also possible for groups and crews to write their own manifesto -- put all the manifesto's in a word cloud > see which topics are huge, and which ones are small

3- combination of both: the are compatible -- make sure that both groups are represented (relational and tech) -- there is a spectrum with black and white, but also grey: there is much more than social pirates and tech pirates (simplification), we have to focus on the common -- both approaches can be combined: we can start with the individual manifesto's, and keep working on the tool for the central one -- make a questionnary as a guidline for writing: why are you a pirate?

TO DO LIST !!!!! 1-- motivate people to write an individual manifesto (wait a little bit for the questionnary) 2-- make a questionnary: gather input for the common manifesto (Toon, Danny, Pascal, Jonas, Josse, Tim) > Toon is taking initiative on the Manifesto Working Group on Facebook 3-- tool to make a common manifesto, we have the input already from the questionnary (Toon and Damiens)

3) SYMPOSIUM

Questions: 1- Is it a pirate event or not?

- Two kinds of approach for events like this: -- 'these are subject we as pirates are interested in, and that's why we invited authorities' -- these speakers are pirates and they speak in our name not all three speakers are 'official pirates', so we chose first approach

- who is organizing and paying? -- financial account of Pirate Party Belgium -- organization by P42 (vzw/asbl linked to Brussels pirate crew) - who is our public? -- pirates and non-pirates

2- How do we fund the event?

- ask people to pay an entrance fee (idea not supported) - put a donation box !!! - sell things? pins or buttons? - we want to keep it simple

if speakers want to sell books: - they announce it and organize it themselves

3- How do we promote the event?

- boost the event by paying on Facebook: -- the host of the event (Pirate Party Belgium) can boost it -- ask supporters to boost it (Promote Event) -- visibility is very low when you don't pay: Facebook is playing trics - sharing event on Facebook pages related to basic income (everyone can do this individually) - spread it through event websites (mention: 'sponsored by Pirate Party Belgium' instead of 'organized by PP Be) -- Politics.be, basisinkomen.be, Oikos, ... - Twitter? what about the pirate Twitter accounts? - flyers? -- graphic design? (brother of Danny!) -- flyer in pdf: digital flyers to spread on the internet, people can print it -- paper prints for universities, student bars, ...

4- Do we stream or film the event?

- no live streaming, can easily go wrong - record and make a promotion film for social media?? -- we need: --- cameraman and technical crew --- someone for montage --- material: good camera + statief

5- How do we welcome new people and keep in touch?

- information about pirates: flyers - mailing lists: gather mail adresses on paper !!! -- note on mailing lists: --- can be used to send invitation for the event!! --- mailing lists should be cleaned up --- huge work: there is no collection of all addresses in one place, there are many different mailinglists and in there you have all the different addresses --- we have to get it straight before we start using it again: bad impression --- avoid massive spam

TO DO LIST !!!!! - start marketing and promotion: share the event through Twitter and Facebook (everyone) - send event to specialised event websites - cleaning up mailing lists? (huge work, will be topic of GA) - camera and staief (Pascal and Toon) - digital registration form (EventBright?) 'come early, full is full' - digital flyer (brother Danny)

Pad

direct link to the pad