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Franky: Bot: Fixing redirects

2017-11-07T13:13:14Z

Bot: Fixing redirects

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	We started a project of having new main page that reflects the recent changes I did on the wiki (events, maps, translate extension, etc.).		We started a project of having new main page that reflects the recent changes I did on the wiki (events, maps, translate extension, etc.).

	Currently, I'm still not satisfied with the header banner. I would like to have those information displayed: [[Welcome/Guide\|survival guide]], [[~~Events/EGA~~:~~2014-01/Wiki_workshop/manual~~\|wiki manual]], and maybe the [[Basic Text]] (although it is already mentioned in the surival guide, and newcomers probably fall on the wiki from the website).		Currently, I'm still not satisfied with the header banner. I would like to have those information displayed: [[Welcome/Guide\|survival guide]], [[help:Contents\|wiki manual]], and maybe the [[Basic Text]] (although it is already mentioned in the surival guide, and newcomers probably fall on the wiki from the website).
	: I notice that currently the map seems to attract a lot of attention, which makes the links to help and welcome guide poorly visible, still, although they are in the banner. Possibly, what about adding some icons/images next to them inside the banner? --[[User:Valerie\|Valerie]] ([[User talk:Valerie\|talk]]) 21:18, 26 February 2017 (CET)		: I notice that currently the map seems to attract a lot of attention, which makes the links to help and welcome guide poorly visible, still, although they are in the banner. Possibly, what about adding some icons/images next to them inside the banner? --[[User:Valerie\|Valerie]] ([[User talk:Valerie\|talk]]) 21:18, 26 February 2017 (CET)
	::Indeed... maybe we could put them somewhere else ? Before or after the map, for instance ? I agree with the icons, that's a good idea anyway :) --[[User:HgO\|HgO]] ([[User talk:HgO\|talk]]) 08:55, 27 February 2017 (CET)		::Indeed... maybe we could put them somewhere else ? Before or after the map, for instance ? I agree with the icons, that's a good idea anyway :) --[[User:HgO\|HgO]] ([[User talk:HgO\|talk]]) 08:55, 27 February 2017 (CET)
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	:: I don't really see how we could do that right now. Would it be just a sentence like "Welcome to the wiki of ... " ? Or do you want also to move the whole section on the top (with links to the guides) ?		:: I don't really see how we could do that right now. Would it be just a sentence like "Welcome to the wiki of ... " ? Or do you want also to move the whole section on the top (with links to the guides) ?
	:: Regarding the search bar, I agree it's a bit redundant ^^' However, I would first try to solve the Help/Welcome section problem, because if we move it to the top, the search bar problem will disappear :p		:: Regarding the search bar, I agree it's a bit redundant ^^' However, I would first try to solve the Help/Welcome section problem, because if we move it to the top, the search bar problem will disappear :p
	:: What I suggest is to discuss about all this during next [[Crew BW/Meeting/10 03 2017\|Crew BW's meeting]] and next [[Pirate Lab/Meeting/25 03 2017\|Pirate Lab]]. Normally, I should be present at both meetings, so I will gather comments and remarks made there :) I also hope that Thierry and Jean-François will be there, so that they can argue about their changes :) Meanwhile, you can also prepare what you have in mind, either by creating [[Main Page test2\|another Main Page test]], or by making changes to this page after I released it this evening :) --[[User:HgO\|HgO]] ([[User talk:HgO\|talk]]) 11:13, 13 March 2017 (CET)		:: What I suggest is to discuss about all this during next [[Crew BW/Meeting/17 03 2017\|Crew BW's meeting]] and next [[Pirate Lab/Meeting/25 03 2017\|Pirate Lab]]. Normally, I should be present at both meetings, so I will gather comments and remarks made there :) I also hope that Thierry and Jean-François will be there, so that they can argue about their changes :) Meanwhile, you can also prepare what you have in mind, either by creating [[Main Page test2\|another Main Page test]], or by making changes to this page after I released it this evening :) --[[User:HgO\|HgO]] ([[User talk:HgO\|talk]]) 11:13, 13 March 2017 (CET)
	:::I want it the way it was :p We had a joyfull banner and a helpfull welcoming section under which you could immediately see a map with the active crews and upcomming events next to it... It was like >perfect< ö Now it seems like you just come onto some page where I (as a newcommer) wouldn't know what to do...		:::I want it the way it was :p We had a joyfull banner and a helpfull welcoming section under which you could immediately see a map with the active crews and upcomming events next to it... It was like >perfect< ö Now it seems like you just come onto some page where I (as a newcommer) wouldn't know what to do...
	:::I really don't understand why the welcome section had to go to the bottom? :/ --[[User:Ilja\|Ilja]] ([[User talk:Ilja\|talk]]) 18:47, 13 March 2017 (CET)		:::I really don't understand why the welcome section had to go to the bottom? :/ --[[User:Ilja\|Ilja]] ([[User talk:Ilja\|talk]]) 18:47, 13 March 2017 (CET)

Ilja: /* Icons */

2017-10-01T09:11:54Z

Icons

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	Hi there, have a look at what would the main page look like with icons and Hgo's new calendar --[[User:Vincent.L\|Vincent L.]] ([[User talk:Vincent.L\|talk]]) 10:20, 30 September 2017 (CEST)		Hi there, have a look at what would the main page look like with icons and Hgo's new calendar --[[User:Vincent.L\|Vincent L.]] ([[User talk:Vincent.L\|talk]]) 10:20, 30 September 2017 (CEST)
	: I'd say important elements catch the eye more easily. I like it. --[[User:Vincent.L\|Vincent L.]] ([[User talk:Vincent.L\|talk]]) 10:20, 30 September 2017 (CEST)		: I'd say important elements catch the eye more easily. I like it. --[[User:Vincent.L\|Vincent L.]] ([[User talk:Vincent.L\|talk]]) 10:20, 30 September 2017 (CEST)
			: +1 for visible aspects! I like it ^^ --[[User:Ilja\|Ilja]] ([[User talk:Ilja\|talk]]) 11:11, 1 October 2017 (CEST)

Vincent.L: /* Icons */ catch the eye

2017-09-30T08:21:02Z

Icons: catch the eye

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	= Icons =		= Icons =

	Hi there, have a look at what would the main page look like with icons and Hgo's new calendar		Hi there, have a look at what would the main page look like with icons and Hgo's new calendar --[[User:Vincent.L\|Vincent L.]] ([[User talk:Vincent.L\|talk]]) 10:20, 30 September 2017 (CEST)
			: I'd say important elements catch the eye more easily. I like it. --[[User:Vincent.L\|Vincent L.]] ([[User talk:Vincent.L\|talk]]) 10:20, 30 September 2017 (CEST)

Vincent.L: /* Icons */

2017-09-30T08:19:08Z

Icons

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	::By the way, for next time it'd be better to use the [[Talk:WikiSquad\|talk on the wikisquad page]] ^^ --[[User:HgO\|HgO]] ([[User talk:HgO\|talk]]) 22:54, 23 September 2017 (CEST)		::By the way, for next time it'd be better to use the [[Talk:WikiSquad\|talk on the wikisquad page]] ^^ --[[User:HgO\|HgO]] ([[User talk:HgO\|talk]]) 22:54, 23 September 2017 (CEST)

	== Icons ==		= Icons =

	Hi there, have a look at what would the main page look like with icons and Hgo's new calendar		Hi there, have a look at what would the main page look like with icons and Hgo's new calendar

Vincent.L: /* Icons */ new section

2017-09-30T08:18:30Z

Icons: new section

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	::Ah, I just tried, and it works: [[File:La Boétie - Discours de la servitude volontaire, 1578.djvu]] :o		::Ah, I just tried, and it works: [[File:La Boétie - Discours de la servitude volontaire, 1578.djvu]] :o
	::By the way, for next time it'd be better to use the [[Talk:WikiSquad\|talk on the wikisquad page]] ^^ --[[User:HgO\|HgO]] ([[User talk:HgO\|talk]]) 22:54, 23 September 2017 (CEST)		::By the way, for next time it'd be better to use the [[Talk:WikiSquad\|talk on the wikisquad page]] ^^ --[[User:HgO\|HgO]] ([[User talk:HgO\|talk]]) 22:54, 23 September 2017 (CEST)

			== Icons ==

			Hi there, have a look at what would the main page look like with icons and Hgo's new calendar

HgO: /* Activate Commons */

2017-09-23T20:54:45Z

Activate Commons

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	--[[User:Vincent.L\|Vincent L.]] ([[User talk:Vincent.L\|talk]]) 20:08, 23 September 2017 (CEST)		--[[User:Vincent.L\|Vincent L.]] ([[User talk:Vincent.L\|talk]]) 20:08, 23 September 2017 (CEST)
	:Ahoy ! It's done ;) Let me know if this is working :) --[[User:HgO\|HgO]] ([[User talk:HgO\|talk]]) 22:48, 23 September 2017 (CEST)		:Ahoy ! It's done ;) Let me know if this is working :) --[[User:HgO\|HgO]] ([[User talk:HgO\|talk]]) 22:48, 23 September 2017 (CEST)
			::Ah, I just tried, and it works: [[File:La Boétie - Discours de la servitude volontaire, 1578.djvu]] :o
			::By the way, for next time it'd be better to use the [[Talk:WikiSquad\|talk on the wikisquad page]] ^^ --[[User:HgO\|HgO]] ([[User talk:HgO\|talk]]) 22:54, 23 September 2017 (CEST)

HgO: /* Activate Commons */

2017-09-23T20:48:12Z

Activate Commons

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	Thank you.		Thank you.
	--[[User:Vincent.L\|Vincent L.]] ([[User talk:Vincent.L\|talk]]) 20:08, 23 September 2017 (CEST)		--[[User:Vincent.L\|Vincent L.]] ([[User talk:Vincent.L\|talk]]) 20:08, 23 September 2017 (CEST)
			:Ahoy ! It's done ;) Let me know if this is working :) --[[User:HgO\|HgO]] ([[User talk:HgO\|talk]]) 22:48, 23 September 2017 (CEST)

Vincent.L at 18:08, 23 September 2017

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	I'm updating the current main page with the last changes we made (welcome section at the top, and more text in the participate section). Thanks for your contributions !! Of course, this page can still be improved if you think there are things missing ;) I will present the main page, and we will be able to discuss about this page during [[Pirate Lab/Meeting/25 03 2017\|next pirate lab]] :) --[[User:HgO\|HgO]] ([[User talk:HgO\|talk]]) 12:14, 18 March 2017 (CET)		I'm updating the current main page with the last changes we made (welcome section at the top, and more text in the participate section). Thanks for your contributions !! Of course, this page can still be improved if you think there are things missing ;) I will present the main page, and we will be able to discuss about this page during [[Pirate Lab/Meeting/25 03 2017\|next pirate lab]] :) --[[User:HgO\|HgO]] ([[User talk:HgO\|talk]]) 12:14, 18 March 2017 (CET)

			= Activate Commons =
			Hi there, can we activate this https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/InstantCommons#Configuration and add it in the credits of our site?

			Thank you.
			--[[User:Vincent.L\|Vincent L.]] ([[User talk:Vincent.L\|talk]]) 20:08, 23 September 2017 (CEST)

HgO: /* Welcome/Introduction */

2017-03-18T11:14:37Z

Welcome/Introduction

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	::: I liked the "You are a noob ? Click me !", but you are right it's quite complex for a newcomer... I kept the idea (small center text) without the navbar. I find this better, aren't you ? :D --[[User:HgO\|HgO]] ([[User talk:HgO\|talk]]) 19:34, 16 March 2017 (CET)		::: I liked the "You are a noob ? Click me !", but you are right it's quite complex for a newcomer... I kept the idea (small center text) without the navbar. I find this better, aren't you ? :D --[[User:HgO\|HgO]] ([[User talk:HgO\|talk]]) 19:34, 16 March 2017 (CET)
	::::Ooow, yes! And this solves the problem I had with the look of the navigation menu as well ö The Noob-thingie did bring a personal touch that seems to be missing now :) Anyone any ideas to fix that :p ? --[[User:Ilja\|Ilja]] ([[User talk:Ilja\|talk]]) 21:23, 17 March 2017 (CET)		::::Ooow, yes! And this solves the problem I had with the look of the navigation menu as well ö The Noob-thingie did bring a personal touch that seems to be missing now :) Anyone any ideas to fix that :p ? --[[User:Ilja\|Ilja]] ([[User talk:Ilja\|talk]]) 21:23, 17 March 2017 (CET)

			I'm updating the current main page with the last changes we made (welcome section at the top, and more text in the participate section). Thanks for your contributions !! Of course, this page can still be improved if you think there are things missing ;) I will present the main page, and we will be able to discuss about this page during [[Pirate Lab/Meeting/25 03 2017\|next pirate lab]] :) --[[User:HgO\|HgO]] ([[User talk:HgO\|talk]]) 12:14, 18 March 2017 (CET)

HgO: /* Wiki workshop 11th march 2017 */

2017-03-18T11:10:15Z

Wiki workshop 11th march 2017

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	Hi there, have a look at what would the main page look like with icons and Hgo's new calendar --[[User:Vincent.L\|Vincent L.]] ([[User talk:Vincent.L\|talk]]) 10:20, 30 September 2017 (CEST)		Hi there, have a look at what would the main page look like with icons and Hgo's new calendar --[[User:Vincent.L\|Vincent L.]] ([[User talk:Vincent.L\|talk]]) 10:20, 30 September 2017 (CEST)
	: I'd say important elements catch the eye more easily. I like it. --[[User:Vincent.L\|Vincent L.]] ([[User talk:Vincent.L\|talk]]) 10:20, 30 September 2017 (CEST)		: I'd say important elements catch the eye more easily. I like it. --[[User:Vincent.L\|Vincent L.]] ([[User talk:Vincent.L\|talk]]) 10:20, 30 September 2017 (CEST)
			: +1 for visible aspects! I like it ^^ --[[User:Ilja\|Ilja]] ([[User talk:Ilja\|talk]]) 11:11, 1 October 2017 (CEST)

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	::: I liked the "You are a noob ? Click me !", but you are right it's quite complex for a newcomer... I kept the idea (small center text) without the navbar. I find this better, aren't you ? :D --[[User:HgO\|HgO]] ([[User talk:HgO\|talk]]) 19:34, 16 March 2017 (CET)		::: I liked the "You are a noob ? Click me !", but you are right it's quite complex for a newcomer... I kept the idea (small center text) without the navbar. I find this better, aren't you ? :D --[[User:HgO\|HgO]] ([[User talk:HgO\|talk]]) 19:34, 16 March 2017 (CET)
	::::Ooow, yes! And this solves the problem I had with the look of the navigation menu as well ö The Noob-thingie did bring a personal touch that seems to be missing now :) Anyone any ideas to fix that :p ? --[[User:Ilja\|Ilja]] ([[User talk:Ilja\|talk]]) 21:23, 17 March 2017 (CET)		::::Ooow, yes! And this solves the problem I had with the look of the navigation menu as well ö The Noob-thingie did bring a personal touch that seems to be missing now :) Anyone any ideas to fix that :p ? --[[User:Ilja\|Ilja]] ([[User talk:Ilja\|talk]]) 21:23, 17 March 2017 (CET)

			I'm updating the current main page with the last changes we made (welcome section at the top, and more text in the participate section). Thanks for your contributions !! Of course, this page can still be improved if you think there are things missing ;) I will present the main page, and we will be able to discuss about this page during [[Pirate Lab/Meeting/25 03 2017\|next pirate lab]] :) --[[User:HgO\|HgO]] ([[User talk:HgO\|talk]]) 12:14, 18 March 2017 (CET)

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	===English Translation===		===English Translation===
	~~<i>~~I've used a translating program, so if it did things wrong, feel free to make the necessary changes ;) --[[User:Ilja\|Ilja]] ([[User talk:Ilja\|talk]]) 07:47, 14 March 2017 (CET)~~</i>~~		''I've used a translating program, so if it did things wrong, feel free to make the necessary changes ;) --[[User:Ilja\|Ilja]] ([[User talk:Ilja\|talk]]) 07:47, 14 March 2017 (CET)''
			:I checked your translation :) Thanks for this ! --[[User:HgO\|HgO]] ([[User talk:HgO\|talk]]) 12:10, 18 March 2017 (CET)

	Good evening! Here is the result of our wiki workshop :)		Good evening! Here is the result of our wiki workshop :)
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	We focused on the point of view of someone who discovers the wiki for the first time.		We focused on the point of view of someone who discovers the wiki for the first time.

	*We have hesitated on the location of the logo, and the fact to keep ~~him~~ or not, because it was redundant with the logo with a heart. Finally, we decided to place it at the bottom of the page.		*We have hesitated on the location of the logo, and the fact to keep it or not, because it was redundant with the logo with a heart. Finally, we decided to place it at the bottom of the page.
	**Placing the logo just before the help section allows us to mark a clear separation between the two parties.		**Placing the logo just before the help section allows us to mark a clear separation between the two parties.
	*We have chosen to help in the creation of the pages (meetings, teams, projects, etc.) on a separate page, probably the wiki guide. Indeed, we think that the person who would for the first time on the wiki ~~will~~ first to know what is happening at the pirates, where to find them, etc. The desire to create content will come later, if they think the party is interesting enough :)		*We have chosen to put the help in the creation of the pages (meetings, teams, projects, etc.) on a separate page, probably the wiki guide. Indeed, we think that the person who would come for the first time on the wiki would first want to know what is happening at the pirates, where to find them, etc. The desire to create content will come later, if they think the party is interesting enough :)
	*Finally, we decided to rename the 'Welcome' in 'Help' section, and place it at the bottom of the page, for the same reasons as above. We also removed the video presentation of La Louvière, because this seemed not really consistent with the rest of the page (we ~~used~~ a support ~~text~~ to video support, for example).		*Finally, we decided to rename the 'Welcome' in 'Help' section, and place it at the bottom of the page, for the same reasons as above. We also removed the video presentation of La Louvière, because this seemed not really consistent with the rest of the page (we went from a text support to a video support, for example).

	On the menu, we were inspired to the Wiktionary. This menu will appear on the main page and has two roles:		On the menu, we were inspired to the [https://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionnaire:Main_Page Wiktionary]. This menu will appear on the main page only and has two roles:
	*First, it summarizes in four links the homepage for ~~cellui~~ who ~~does~~ not want to read everything.		*First, it summarizes in four links the homepage for those who do not want to read everything.
	*Then, it allows users ~~who are accustomed~~ to go on the most used pages of the wiki.		*Then, it allows regular users to go on the most used pages of the wiki.

	Here, I hope not have missed anything ^^ if you have any questions or remarks, do not hesitate to let us know here ;) These changes are of course open to discussion :)		Here, I hope not have missed anything ^^ if you have any questions or remarks, do not hesitate to let us know here ;) These changes are of course open to discussion :)



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	* I want to stress there is a huge difference between the Welcome page (I agree it still requires work) and a Help page. The '''Welcome''' page is meant to new pirates, to get introduced. The Survival guide is insufficient, and I would point to the Welcome page, even if it is not complete yet - or then leave the survival guide for the moment, I will try to make a more decent welcome page soon... A '''Help''' page is when you need help - basically - for instance when you are lost on a wiki and do not know how it works, and are looking how to do things. These two would be in the banner, that would be meant to explain what this wiki is all about.		* I want to stress there is a huge difference between the Welcome page (I agree it still requires work) and a Help page. The '''Welcome''' page is meant to new pirates, to get introduced. The Survival guide is insufficient, and I would point to the Welcome page, even if it is not complete yet - or then leave the survival guide for the moment, I will try to make a more decent welcome page soon... A '''Help''' page is when you need help - basically - for instance when you are lost on a wiki and do not know how it works, and are looking how to do things. These two would be in the banner, that would be meant to explain what this wiki is all about.
	::I agree for a help-section, the 'survival guide' is not what we need. I would like to keep it in plain sight though :p It's light, informal it's funny and it's true ;) I think it's an invaluable text for people who want to get a first idea of the pirates without having to go through dull texts. (+ everyone I know who read it, loved it ;) including me of course :p ) --[[User:Ilja\|Ilja]] ([[User talk:Ilja\|talk]]) 20:33, 13 March 2017 (CET)		::I agree for a help-section, the 'survival guide' is not what we need. I would like to keep it in plain sight though :p It's light, informal it's funny and it's true ;) I think it's an invaluable text for people who want to get a first idea of the pirates without having to go through dull texts. (+ everyone I know who read it, loved it ;) including me of course :p ) --[[User:Ilja\|Ilja]] ([[User talk:Ilja\|talk]]) 20:33, 13 March 2017 (CET)
			:::I also agree that we need a Welcome page, but I think that this will take time. I'll try to push for other workshops to work on this, so we can have something interesting in the next months :) --[[User:HgO\|HgO]] ([[User talk:HgO\|talk]]) 12:10, 18 March 2017 (CET)
	* But you can publish the page as it is for the moment, we can discuss further and make changes later, no hurry. --[[User:Valerie\|Valerie]] ([[User talk:Valerie\|talk]]) 08:15, 13 March 2017 (CET)		* But you can publish the page as it is for the moment, we can discuss further and make changes later, no hurry. --[[User:Valerie\|Valerie]] ([[User talk:Valerie\|talk]]) 08:15, 13 March 2017 (CET)