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	*We all like the idea of HgO to go to the Conseil d'Etat -> It would be a good idea to bring that to Loomio and ask if there are any objections. (newsletter)		*We all like the idea of HgO to go to the Conseil d'Etat. But it's costly, so he proposes that PPBe pays 700€ -> It would be a good idea to bring that to Loomio and ask if there are any objections. (newsletter)
	**HgO will start a loomio thread about that. Proceed by strong objection.		**HgO will start a loomio thread about that. Proceed by strong objection.
	*For elections: suggest 50/50 (1500 € things we want to do afterwards, 1500 € Flanders, 1500 € Wallonie) also on Loomio Permanent assembly (4500 € on the account)		*For elections: suggest 50/50 (1500 € things we want to do afterwards, 1500 € Flanders, 1500 € Wallonie) also on Loomio Permanent assembly (4500 € on the account)

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	== Reporting ==		== Reporting ==
			Lab starts at 14:00

	~~A report~~ will ~~be provided at~~ the ~~end~~ of the lab.		===Roundtable===
			*Josse :
			** envoyer la newsletter ( + publier article !)
			** crowdfunding des pirates flamands (bateau), ils sont à 200€ et objectif 2500€, participation du ppbe ?
			** liste à louvain ?
			** article sur la particratie en Gelbique : https://www.loomio.org/d/sFaHZNJ7/-post-most-discussions-between-citizens-about-the-flawed-belgian-state-lead-nowhere-this-is-why
			* Patrick
			**Argent disponible 4500€ => qu'en faire ? garder un matelas, diviser 50/50 wallon/flamand
			**N.B. : programme du Parti Pirate français (https://wiki.partipirate.org/Programme )
			*HgO
			**Distribution d'argent hors-élection (recours au Conseil d'Etat, crowdfunding) => AG ?
			*Renaud
			**Feedback sur thématique Environnement de Liège https://www.loomio.org/d/Z78De4bq/cfp-r-pondre-l-urgence-cologique-lors-des-lections-r-gionales-de-2019-animation-6-d-cembre/73
			* Assia
			**Idem feedback Environnement

			===1st Round : Finances of PPBe===

			*We all like the idea of HgO to go to the Conseil d'Etat -> It would be a good idea to bring that to Loomio and ask if there are any objections. (newsletter)
			**HgO will start a loomio thread about that. Proceed by strong objection.
			*For elections: suggest 50/50 (1500 € things we want to do afterwards, 1500 € Flanders, 1500 € Wallonie) also on Loomio Permanent assembly (4500 € on the account)
			**Patrick would only need a proof: either an invoice or a consensus: e.g. on the Flemish side if Flanders decides that 50% of the money
			**HgO creates a loomio thread to explain what we propose (1500€ for each region, except Brussels which doesn't really exist anyway). Deadline to react is next Pirate Lab (23rd feb)

			===2nd Round : Programme de Liège sur l'Environnement===

			Voir le document "Idéation" : https://www.loomio.org/d/Z78De4bq/cfp-r-pondre-l-urgence-cologique-lors-des-lections-r-gionales-de-2019-animation-6-d-cembre/73

			Les Pirates de Liège se présentent aux élections régionales. Un programme est en cours de construction, divisé en trois parties : Environnement, Numérique et Démocratie. Les Pirates de Liège ont déjà travaillé la thématique Environnement pour l'intégrer dans leur programme électoral. Ils l'ont divisée en 5 sujets : Education, Econoomie, Inclusion sociale, Transport, (sur)consommation. Pour chaque sujet, un rêve ("Dans 5 ans, nous rêvons que...") a été établi, et des propositions concrètes ont déjà été formulées. Celles-ci nécessitent un gros travail de validation/vérification.

			Les Pirates de Liège demandent et obtiennent un feedback de la part des autres Pirates lors de ce lab sur cette partie Environnement :

			*Une attention doit être portée aux compétences : par ex. éducation (enseignement) est dans la compétence communautaire
			*Il serait intéressant de proposer des consultations etc pour des Pirates élu·e·s. Ceci concerne plutôt la partie "programme = méthode" (hors des 3 thématiques donc)
			*Dans la méthode de la thématique Environnement : présenter le programme publiquement pour obtenir un feedback. Il faut quand même renforcer ce qui est déjà fait, histoire de ne pas gaspiller du feedback des citoyen·ne·s.
			*Proposition "obligation d'inclure un potager pour chaque nouvelle construction" : très contraignant de faire cela pour chacune des maisons, attention à ne pas faire trop/que des propositions contraignantes
			*Questionnement à propos de l'incitation à consommer/produire local : est-ce une motivation écologique, ou une motivation économique ?
			* Sujet à inclure ? : Connaissance du terroir en disparition
			* A aller voir : le programme du PPFr

			===3rd Round : Newsletter===

			Loomio thread to be used : https://www.loomio.org/d/PF9IUdlM/newsletter

			It should preferably be published before the 9-10th feb.

			* Boat crowdfunding + site piratenpartij.vlaanderen? (+ slogan Burgers aan de Macht? -> ask Antwerp)
			* Liège (à voir avec Crew Liège)
			* Demande de participation aux élections + article élections
			* Particratie (à titre personnel ou non)
			* Loomio -> + article State Council HgO in het Nederlands? (check Koen)
			* Finances for the elections : proposal (see Loomio thread that HgO will create)

			===4th Round : Elections ===
			Européennes -> probably too hard

			===Next Lab===
			23/02 in Mechelen

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= Pirate Lab January 2019 =

== About this meeting ==

Meetings are open to everyone! You don't need to be a member to come here!<br />
[[Pirate Lab|Pirate Labs]] can be seen as incubators for pirate projects. This is the perfect place for people to propose their ideas and to launch new projects.

If you have any ideas of projects, or want to help other projects, please do come!

We will use the [[Internal_Democracy/Guidelines|meeting guidelines]] proposed by the [[Internal Democracy|internal democracy group]]. Please have a look at them before coming to the lab :)

Languages: English, français, nederlands

== To-do list ==
# Define venue
# Confirm venue
# Create facebook event (then destroy facebook)

== Preparation ==

'''Lab starts at 2 pm'''. For those who want to lunch together before the lab, they can coordinate on the following pad:

https://pad.pirateparty.be/p/Piratelab2019-January

Suggestions for the agenda happen on this pad. We strongly advise you to '''read the pad''' before coming to this lab!

== Reporting ==

A report will be provided at the end of the lab.