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<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">6 - Pas de lien entre representation géographique et election de co-présidents</span></span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 20:57, 21 November 2012</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l1">Line 1:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 1:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>= 6 - <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Pas de lien entre representation géographique et election de co</del>-<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">présidents </del>=</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>= <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Proposition </ins>6 - <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Klaas Mensaert </ins>- <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Pirate - 20/11/12 </ins>=</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*L&#039;élection des trois co-présidents n&#039;est pas basée sur la représentation communautaire ou régionale</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*L&#039;élection des trois co-présidents n&#039;est pas basée sur la représentation communautaire ou régionale</div></td></tr> <!-- diff cache key mediawiki_prod:diff::1.12:old-7436:rev-7499 --> </table>

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<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Motivation</span></span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 18:38, 21 November 2012</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l5">Line 5:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 5:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>== Motivation ==</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>== Motivation ==</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">De grootste uitdaging voor het core-team is niet </del>de intra-<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">gewestelijke coördinatie</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">maar de </del>inter-<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">gewestelijke coördinatie</del>. <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Co-presidenten zouden zich dan beter focussen op samenwerkingen tussen piraten van verschillende gewesten</del>. <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Intra</del>-<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">gewestelijke coördinatie zal eenvoudiger zijn en kan op een ander </del>niveau <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">(lager) bewerkstelligd worden</del>. <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Niet de geografische afkomst, maar wel de meertaligheid is van belang</del>.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Le plus grand défi </ins>de <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">la coreteam n&#039;est pas la coordination &#039;&#039;&#039;</ins>intra-<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">régionalle&#039;&#039;&#039;</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">mais une coordination &#039;&#039;&#039;</ins>inter-<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">religionnaire&#039;&#039;&#039;</ins>.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">co-presidenten moeten boven gewestbelangen staan</del>. <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Door ze vertegenwoordigers van deelgroepen te maken</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">zullen ze waarschijnlijk minder objectief kunnen handelen</del>. Ref: social psycology of intergroup relations, Tajfel, 1982</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Les Coprésidents devraient se concentrer sur la collaboration entre les pirates des différents régions</ins>. <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">La coordination interrégional sera plus facile a appliquer, et peut</ins>-<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">être effectuée a un </ins>niveau <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">plus bas</ins>. <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">L&#039;importance n&#039;est pas le facteur géographique mais le facteur multilinguisme</ins>.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Een verkiezing van co-presidenten volgens gewest is minder democratisch omdat </del>de <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">kiezers minder keuze hebben. Vb</del>.: 4 <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">kandidaten</del>, 3 <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">gewesten </del>-&gt; 2 <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">mogelijke uitkomsten met gewestelijk afhankelijk systeem</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">terwijl </del>4 <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">mogelijke uitkomsten zonder gewestelijk afhankelijk systeem.</del></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div> </div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Les intérêts régionales ne devraient pas influencer les décisions de la Coreteam</ins>. <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">En les nommant représentants des régions</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">ils seront probablement influencés suivant ces intérêts la et seront moins objectifs</ins>. Ref: social psycology of intergroup relations, Tajfel, 1982</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div> </div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Des élections de coprésidents suivant les régions est moins démocratique, puisque les électeurs ont moins </ins>de <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">choix</ins>.</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div> </div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Exemple</ins>: 4 <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Candidats</ins>, 3 <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Régions </ins>-&gt; <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">avec un système de représentation régional il n&#039;y a que </ins>2 <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">différents résultats possibles</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">alors que </ins>4 <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">combinaison est possible sans système de représentation régional</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>== Amendement(s) ==</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>== Amendement(s) ==</div></td></tr> <!-- diff cache key mediawiki_prod:diff::1.12:old-7382:rev-7436 --> </table>

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<p>Created page with &quot;= 6 - Pas de lien entre representation géographique et election de co-présidents = *L&#039;élection des trois co-présidents n&#039;est pas basée sur la représentation communautaire ...&quot;</p> <p><b>New page</b></p><div>= 6 - Pas de lien entre representation géographique et election de co-présidents =<br /> <br /> *L&#039;élection des trois co-présidents n&#039;est pas basée sur la représentation communautaire ou régionale<br /> <br /> == Motivation ==<br /> <br /> *De grootste uitdaging voor het core-team is niet de intra-gewestelijke coördinatie, maar de inter-gewestelijke coördinatie. Co-presidenten zouden zich dan beter focussen op samenwerkingen tussen piraten van verschillende gewesten. Intra-gewestelijke coördinatie zal eenvoudiger zijn en kan op een ander niveau (lager) bewerkstelligd worden. Niet de geografische afkomst, maar wel de meertaligheid is van belang.<br /> *co-presidenten moeten boven gewestbelangen staan. Door ze vertegenwoordigers van deelgroepen te maken, zullen ze waarschijnlijk minder objectief kunnen handelen. Ref: social psycology of intergroup relations, Tajfel, 1982<br /> *Een verkiezing van co-presidenten volgens gewest is minder democratisch omdat de kiezers minder keuze hebben. Vb.: 4 kandidaten, 3 gewesten -&gt; 2 mogelijke uitkomsten met gewestelijk afhankelijk systeem, terwijl 4 mogelijke uitkomsten zonder gewestelijk afhankelijk systeem.<br /> <br /> == Amendement(s) ==</div>

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