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	The first meeting of the [[DemocracySquad]] was held in Brussels.		The first meeting of the [[Democracy\|DemocracySquad]] was held in Brussels.
	Present were Michel Lefebvre, Pierre-Alexandre Klein and Alexandre Zénon.		Present were Michel Lefebvre, Pierre-Alexandre Klein and Alexandre Zénon.

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	The first meeting of the [[DemocracySquad]] was held in Brussels.		The first meeting of the [[DemocracySquad]] was held in Brussels.
	Present were Michel Lefebvre, Pierre-Alexandre Klein and Alexandre Zénon.		Present were Michel Lefebvre, Pierre-Alexandre Klein and Alexandre Zénon.

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	=== Some level of centralization ===		=== Some level of centralization ===
	A probably better solution would be to have some level of centralization, but keeping it minimal. We prefer to avoid, as far as possible, giving any task to a single elected person. So this centralization organism would be a community of persons. We discussed many different possibilities: free assemblies of any ~~pirates~~, ~~assemblies~~ of ~~crews captains~~, ~~assemblies~~ of ~~crews navigators~~, etc...		A probably better solution would be to have some level of centralization, but keeping it minimal. We prefer to avoid, as far as possible, giving any task to a single elected person. So this centralization organism would be a community of persons. We discussed many different possibilities: free assemblies of any Pirates, Council of Crews Captains, Council of Crews Navigators, etc...

	=== Council of Captains, Navigators or Quarter-Masters ===		=== Council of Captains, Navigators or Quarter-Masters ===

Migwell: /* The "ideal" form */

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	=== The "ideal" form ===		=== The "ideal" form ===
	We all agreed that the ideal form of structure would be a purely decentralized one but we are unsure about the practicality of it. All the different functions of the party could be fulfilled by ~~squads~~, e.g. administrative tasks, budget, international communication, organization of a party, etc... Anybody could join any ~~squad~~. The advantages would be the total openness of the system, the potential for education of the newbies by the most skilled participants in the ~~squad~~, the division of the tasks in multiple subtasks, etc...		We all agreed that the ideal form of structure would be a purely decentralized one but we are unsure about the practicality of it. All the different functions of the party could be fulfilled by Squads or a similar entity, e.g. administrative tasks, budget, international communication, organization of a party, etc... Anybody could join any Squad. The advantages would be the total openness of the system, the potential for education of the newbies by the most skilled participants in the Squad, the division of the tasks in multiple subtasks, etc... The term "Fleet" was proposed to be used to describe that kind of '''operational entity''' (unlimited in time) to diferenciate it from the Squads which are '''project entities''' (limited in time).
	But the problems arise especially when the work of such a ~~squad~~ would affect all the other pirates (e.g. budget). In that case, it is unsure whether this type of organization would allow the work to be done well and in time. It is also unsure how the information about what all the squads are doing would be shared.		But the problems arise especially when the work of such a Squad would affect all the other pirates (e.g. budget). In that case, it is unsure whether this type of organization would allow the work to be done well and in time. It is also unsure how the information about what all the squads are doing would be shared.

	=== Some level of centralization ===		=== Some level of centralization ===

Migwell: /* How this would work */

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How this would work

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	=== How this would work ===		=== How this would work ===
	So for instance, the ~~assembly~~ of ~~boatswains~~ would gather every 2 weeks or so. One of the crews would be selected randomly to preside the meeting and would change regularly (rotating presidency). All the members of this particular ~~crew~~ would then participate and prepare the agenda, invite the ~~squads~~ representatives, write the minutes, etc... The advancement of each of the ~~squads~~ would then be successively reviewed, with an emphasis on ~~squads~~ that have a global role for all the pirates and for which the deadline is approaching. Squad participants could be invited to the meeting in order to present their advancement.		So for instance, the Council of Quarter-Masters would gather every 2 weeks or so. One of the crews would be selected randomly to preside the meeting and would change regularly (rotating presidency). All the members of this particular assembly would then participate and prepare the agenda, invite the Squads representatives, write the minutes, etc... The advancement of each of the Squads would then be successively reviewed, with an emphasis on Squads that have a global role for all the pirates and for which the deadline is approaching. Squad participants could be invited to the meeting in order to present their advancement.
	Then the possibility to define new workgroups could be discussed. If the creation of a new workgroup is decided, at least one of the participants of the meeting takes the responsibility to form a ~~squad~~ to fulfill this particular function. An associated agenda would be created.		Then the possibility to define new workgroups could be discussed. If the creation of a new workgroup is decided, at least one of the participants of the meeting takes the responsibility to form a Squad to fulfill this particular function. An associated agenda would be created.

	=== Outstanding questions ===		=== Outstanding questions ===

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Assemblies of captains, navigators or boatswains

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	A probably better solution would be to have some level of centralization, but keeping it minimal. We prefer to avoid, as far as possible, giving any task to a single elected person. So this centralization organism would be a community of persons. We discussed many different possibilities: free assemblies of any pirates, assemblies of crews captains, assemblies of crews navigators, etc...		A probably better solution would be to have some level of centralization, but keeping it minimal. We prefer to avoid, as far as possible, giving any task to a single elected person. So this centralization organism would be a community of persons. We discussed many different possibilities: free assemblies of any pirates, assemblies of crews captains, assemblies of crews navigators, etc...

	=== ~~Assemblies~~ of ~~captains~~, ~~navigators~~ or ~~boatswains~~ ===		=== Council of Captains, Navigators or Quarter-Masters ===
	An interesting idea was to have each of the responsibility positions within a ~~crew~~ gather in regular assemblies, whose role would be specific to the position within the ~~crew~~. For instance, ~~assemblies~~ of ~~captains~~ would have an arbitration role (deciding on reclamations raised by other ~~pirates~~). ~~Assemblies~~ of ~~navigators~~ would be responsible for working on communication aspects of the party. And ~~boatswains~~ (?, ~~maître d'équipage~~), could have this role of centralizing the work of all the ~~squads~~.		An interesting idea was to have each of the responsibility positions within a Crew gather in regular assemblies, whose role would be specific to the position within the Crew. For instance, Council of Captains would have an arbitration role (deciding on reclamations raised by other Pirates). Council of Navigators would be responsible for working on communication aspects of the party. And Quarter-Master(?, Quartier-Maitre), could have this role of centralizing the work of all the Squads.

	=== How this would work ===		=== How this would work ===