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		<title>Vanecx: corrected &quot;venue&quot;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;corrected &amp;quot;venue&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>Vanecx: Created page with &quot;{{MeetingSidebar |meetingname=Antwerpen meeting |workgroup=Crew Antwerpen (Stad) |date=2020/12/09 |time=20:00 |venue=Online |address=https://meet.jit.si/piratenpartij }} == De...&quot;</title>
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		<updated>2020-12-15T19:08:30Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;{{MeetingSidebar |meetingname=Antwerpen meeting |workgroup=Crew Antwerpen (Stad) |date=2020/12/09 |time=20:00 |venue=Online |address=https://meet.jit.si/piratenpartij }} == De...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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== Details ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;!-- This section should contain information about the venue, the date, and all the practical information to come to the meeting. --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Agenda ==&lt;br /&gt;
*Actua&lt;br /&gt;
*verslag GA PPEU/PPI&lt;br /&gt;
*communicatie Belgische Piraten &lt;br /&gt;
*Publicatieregel FB-pagina&lt;br /&gt;
*legalisering Cannabis (beslissing VN)&lt;br /&gt;
*Online fraude, hoe veilig zijn uw identiteitsgegevens onder gdpr?&lt;br /&gt;
*Hoe kan de virtuele identiteit meer rust creëeren voor de fysieke entiteit?&lt;br /&gt;
*Hoe evolueren de commons van gemeenschapsorganisatie naar overheidsinstantie? &lt;br /&gt;
*Slot: Brainstorm, varia&lt;br /&gt;
-Standpunten i.v.m. mondmaskerplicht? Persoonlijk wel, als partij niet. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6UMtaREd14&amp;amp;feature=youtu.be&lt;br /&gt;
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== Report ==&lt;br /&gt;
Aanwezigen: Lander (verslag), Ilja, Renaud, Jelle, Christophe, David, Bart Neys (Referendumpartij)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Actua ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
reactie sp.a basisinkomenexperiment: https://www.loomio.org/d/v8G2OIoP/basic-income-experiment&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Het gaat over een onvoorwaardelijk basisinkomen. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Variaties: universeel / niet-universeel; Negative income tax; different amounts&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
→ experiment: verschillende versies testen&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
1000-2000 people; 200 people has more error margin&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Age, gender, previous situation differences&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Wat wil je meten?&lt;br /&gt;
**De kostprijs + besparing (administratie, gezondheidszorg)&lt;br /&gt;
**Geluk, welzijn, gezondheid, zingeving&lt;br /&gt;
**Activiteiten (werk, familie, cultuur, …)&lt;br /&gt;
**Consumptie&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
- duur: lang genoeg (angst vermijden voor situatie na het experiment)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Opletten voor hawthorne-effect (placebo-effect op controlegroep door aandacht)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Input van deelnemers&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Jaarlijkse evaluatie, mogelijkheid tot uitbreiding&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
https://wiki.pirateparty.be/Basic_Income&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Verhoogde tegemoetkoming? Mensen die bepaalde voordelen verliezen door deel te nemen, hebben zelf de keuze.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== verslag GA PPEU/PPI ===&lt;br /&gt;
Formalistic meetings&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Belangrijke netwerkorganisaties; ideeën piratenbeweging verspreiden; goede acties delen&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Pirate IO is nieuw; een soort hub; internet = home infrastructure&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Lokale organisaties internationaal verbinden → meer media-aandacht&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We kunnen leren van hun media-aanpak; design-tools&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
~ Fearless Cities&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Jitsi is niet geschikt voor grote groepen &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
ACTIE → wedstrijd uitschrijven voor universiteiten (Jelle doet voorstel op Loomio)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== communicatie Belgische Piraten ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Lokale afdelingen communiceren (Antwerpen, W-Vl, Waals Brabant, Luik) niet goed met elkaar.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Belgische statuten worden niet nageleefd.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Informatie moet intern doorgegeven worden.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Online hangouts + structureel maken.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
LABs niet actief.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Belgische Piraten heel inactief; geen nieuwsbrief&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Lijst met taken maken: functies verdelen + ‘vacatures’ maken&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Bv. https://wiki.pirateparty.be/Category:Active_Projects&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
→ werkmeeting organiseren: projecten overlopen&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Tools: Jitsi, Pad Parley, Google Docs, Spreadsheat (?)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Beslissingsprocessen: uitwerken, 3-piraten regel uitleggen&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
https://wiki.pirateparty.be/Decision-making_process&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Publicatieregel FB-pagina ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In Antwerpen kan een redacteur een publicatievoorstel goedkeuren om het meteen te publiceren (i.p.v. 3-piratenregel). Ter verduidelijking: een redacteur kan zijn eigen voorstel niet goedkeuren + voorstellen moeten (intern) publiek gebeuren&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== legalisering Cannabis (beslissing VN) ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
VN heeft zich aangesloten bij WHO: categorisering van cannabis verlaagd&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Veel piraten zijn (soms voorzichtig) voorstander van legalisering&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
War on Drugs en criminaliseren werken niet&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Vraag is niet of drugs goed of slecht zijn, maar hoe we daar maatschappelijk mee omgaan.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Standpunt van de Piraten: Europese Piratenpartij is pro;&lt;br /&gt;
Wij moeten geen standpunt innemen (geen uitgebreid programma), maar recht op inspraak benadrukken, commons en experten raadplegen, gebrek aan (correcte) informatie&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
https://european-pirateparty.eu/victory-for-pirates-un-cannabis-legislation-arrives-in-21st-century&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Vanecx</name></author>
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